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'''Variants'''{{Collapse|
'''Variants'''{{Collapse|
[[File:CenterAuthRight.png|link=:Category:Centrists]] [[:Category:Centrists|{{Color|#C0C0C0|'''Center-'''}}]][[:Category:Authoritarian Right|{{Color|#92D9F8|'''AuthRight'''}}]] ([[File:Adams.png]] Adamsism)<br>
[[File:CenterAuthRight.png|link=:Category:Centrists]] [[:Category:Centrists|{{Color|#C0C0C0|'''Center-'''}}]][[:Category:Authoritarian Right|{{Color|#92D9F8|'''AuthRight'''}}]] ([[File:Adams.png]] Adamsism)<br>
[[File:ModTrad.png|link=:Category:Cultural Center]] [[:Category:Cultural Center|{{Color|#8BC34A|'''Culturally Center-'''}}]][[:Category:Culturally Right|{{Color|#8BC34A|'''Right'''}}]]<br>
{{Info|Nationalists}} ([[File:Bulnes.png]] Manuel Bulnes Thought)<br>
{{Info|Nationalists}} [[File:Bulnes.png]] Bulnesism)<br>
[[File:Rightunity-yellow.png|link=:Category:Right Unity]] [[:Category:Right Unity|{{Color|#F5F5A9|'''Right'''}}{{Color|#93DAF8|'''Unity'''}}]]
[[File:Rightunity-yellow.png|link=:Category:Right Unity]] [[:Category:Right Unity|{{Color|#F5F5A9|'''Right'''}}{{Color|#93DAF8|'''Unity'''}}]]
{{Info|Religious}} ([[File:Amroyal.png]] American Loyalism, [[File:ClassUSCon.png]] American Whiggism, [[File:Rees-Mogg.png]] Rees-Moggism)<br>
{{Info|Religious}} ([[File:Amroyal.png]] American Loyalism, [[File:ClassUSCon.png]] American Whiggism, [[File:Rees-Mogg.png]] Rees-Moggism)<br>
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*[[File:CONNATCLASS.png]] [[National Conservatism|Samuel Johnson]] (1709-1784) [[File:Cball-GB.png]] Great Britain
*[[File:CONNATCLASS.png]] [[National Conservatism|Samuel Johnson]] (1709-1784) [[File:Cball-GB.png]] Great Britain
*[[File:ClasslibTradcon.png]] [[Conservative Liberalism|George Canning]] (1770-1827) [[File:Cball-GB.png]] Great Britain
*[[File:ClasslibTradcon.png]] [[Conservative Liberalism|George Canning]] (1770-1827) [[File:Cball-GB.png]] Great Britain
*[[File:Carlyle.png]] [[White Nationalism|Thomas Carlyle]] (1795-1881) [[File:Cball-GB.png]] Great Britain
*[[File:Wignat.png]] [[White Nationalism|Thomas Carlyle]] (1795-1881) [[File:Cball-GB.png]] Great Britain
*[[File:Carroll.png]] [[Liquid Democracy|Lewis Carroll]] (1832-1898) [[File:Cball-UK.png]] UK
*[[File:Carroll.png]] [[Liquid Democracy|Lewis Carroll]] (1832-1898) [[File:Cball-UK.png]] UK
*[[File:Red Tory.png]] [[Paternalistic Conservatism|George Grant]] (1918-1988) [[File:Cball-Canada.png]] Canada
*[[File:Red Tory.png]] [[Paternalistic Conservatism|George Grant]] (1918-1988) [[File:Cball-Canada.png]] Canada
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*[[File:Reclaim.png]] [[Right-Wing Populism|Laurence Paul Fox]] (1978-) [[File:Cball-UK.png]] UK
*[[File:Reclaim.png]] [[Right-Wing Populism|Laurence Paul Fox]] (1978-) [[File:Cball-UK.png]] UK
*[[File:Carl Benjamin.png]] [[Alt-Lite|Carl Benjamin]] (1979-) [[File:Cball-UK.png]] UK
*[[File:Carl Benjamin.png]] [[Alt-Lite|Carl Benjamin]] (1979-) [[File:Cball-UK.png]] UK
*[[File:Trad.png]] [[Traditionalism|Daisy Cousens]] (1988-) [[File:Cball-Australia.png]] Australia
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[[File:Cball-EU.png]] '''Europe''' {{Collapse|
[[File:Cball-EU.png]] '''Europe''' {{Collapse|
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*[[File:Euras.png]] [[Fourth Theory|Aleksandr Dugin]] (1962-) [[File:Cball-Russia.png]] Russia
*[[File:Euras.png]] [[Fourth Theory|Aleksandr Dugin]] (1962-) [[File:Cball-Russia.png]] Russia
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[[File:PanAmer.png]] '''Latin America''' {{Collapse|
[[File:LatAm.png]] '''Latin America''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Bulnes.png]] [[Caudillismo|Manuel Bulnes Prieto]] (1799-1866) [[File:Cball-Chile.png]] Chile
*[[File:Bulnes.png]] [[Caudillismo|Manuel Bulnes Prieto]] (1799-1866) [[File:Cball-Chile.png]] Chile
*[[File:ClassConlib.png]] [[Conservative Liberalism|Bruno Garschagen]] (1975-) [[File:Cball-Brazil.png]]
*[[File:ClassConlib.png]] [[Conservative Liberalism|Bruno Garschagen]] (1975-) [[File:Cball-Brazil.png]]
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**[[File:Mil.png]] [[Stratocracy|Militarism]]
**[[File:Mil.png]] [[Stratocracy|Militarism]]
**[[File:Monarch.png]] [[Monarchism]] (Accused by [[File:Jeffersondem2.png]] [[Jeffersonian Democracy]])
**[[File:Monarch.png]] [[Monarchism]] (Accused by [[File:Jeffersondem2.png]] [[Jeffersonian Democracy]])
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**[[File:Zio.png]] [[Zionism|Proto-Zionism]]
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*[[File:Amroyal.png]] '''American Loyalism''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Amroyal.png]] '''American Loyalism''' {{Collapse|
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*[[File:Rees-Mogg.png]] '''Rees-Moggism''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Rees-Mogg.png]] '''Rees-Moggism''' {{Collapse|
**[[File:Antiabort.png]] {{PCBA|Anti-Abortion}}
**[[File:Antiabort.png]] {{PCBA|Anti-Abortion}}
**[[File:Right-AnEn.png]] [[Climate Skepticism]]
**[[File:Right-AnEn.png]] [[Climate Skepticism]] (Some)
**[[File:Anti-LGBT.png]] Anti-LGBT+
**[[File:Anti-LGBT.png]] Anti-LGBT+ (Many)
**[[File:Anti-Semitic.png]] Anti-Semitism (Accused)
**[[File:Anti-Semitic.png]] Anti-Semitism (Accused)
**[[File:Antisoc.png]] Anti-Socialism
**[[File:Antisoc.png]] Anti-Socialism
**[[File:BoJo.png]] [[One-Nation Conservatism|Borisism]]
**[[File:BoJo.png]] [[One-Nation Conservatism|Borisism]]
**[[File:TradCath.png]] [[Catholic Theocracy|Catholic Conservatism]]
**[[File:TradCath.png]] [[Catholic Theocracy|Catholic Conservatism]]
**[[File:ClassyConlib.png]] [[Conservative Liberalism]]
**[[File:Conlib.png]] [[Conservative Liberalism]]
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**[[File:Necon.png]] [[Neoconservatism]]
**[[File:Christian_Conservatism.png]] [[Religious Nationalism#Christian Nationalism|Christian Right]]
**[[File:Christian_Conservatism.png]] [[Religious Nationalism#Christian Nationalism|Christian Right]]
**[[File:Conmon.png]] [[Constitutional Monarchism]]
**[[File:Conmon.png]] [[Constitutional Monarchism]]
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**[[File:Euroscept.png]] [[Separatism#Euroscepticism|Euroscepticism]]
**[[File:Euroscept.png]] [[Separatism#Euroscepticism|Euroscepticism]]
**[[File:CONNATCLASS.png]] [[National Conservatism]]
**[[File:CONNATCLASS.png]] [[National Conservatism]]
**[[File:Necon.png]] [[Neoconservatism]]
**[[File:Reactlib.png]] [[Reactionary Liberalism]] (Accused)
**[[File:Reactlib.png]] [[Reactionary Liberalism]] (Accused)
**[[File:ToryPopulism.png]] [[Right-Wing Populism]]
**[[File:ToryPopulism.png]] [[Right-Wing Populism]] (Some)
**[[File:SocialConservative.png]] [[Traditionalism|Social Conservatism]]
**[[File:SocialConservative.png]] [[Traditionalism|Social Conservatism]]
**[[File:Thatcher.png]] [[Neoliberalism|Thatcherism]]
**[[File:Thatcher.png]] [[Neoliberalism|Thatcherism]]
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*[[File:Tradcon.png]] '''William Pitt Thought''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Tradcon.png]] '''Pittism''' {{Collapse|
**[[File:Abolitionism.png]] [[Abolitionism]]
**[[File:Abolitionism.png]] [[Abolitionism]]
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*[[File:Bulnes.png]] '''Manuel Bulnes Thought''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Bulnes.png]] '''Bulnesism''' {{Collapse|
**[[File:Caudillo.png]] [[Caudillismo]]
**[[File:Caudillo.png]] [[Caudillismo]]
**[[File:EconNat.png]] [[Protectionism|Economic Nationalism]]
**[[File:EconNat.png]] [[Protectionism|Economic Nationalism]]
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[[File:Conlib.png]] [[Conservative Liberalism]]<br>
[[File:Conlib.png]] [[Conservative Liberalism]]<br>
[[File:Distributist.png]] [[Distributism]]<br>
[[File:Distributist.png]] [[Distributism]]<br>
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[[File:UKUKIP.png]] [[National Liberalism|Faragism]]<br>
[[File:Euras.png]] [[Fourth Theory]]<br>
[[File:Euras.png]] [[Fourth Theory]]<br>
[[File:Franco-alt.png]] [[Francoism]]<br>
[[File:Franco-alt.png]] [[Francoism]]<br>
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[[File:Plcn2.png]] [[Paleoconservatism]]<br>
[[File:Plcn2.png]] [[Paleoconservatism]]<br>
[[File:Patcon.png]] [[Paternalistic Conservatism]]<br>
[[File:Patcon.png]] [[Paternalistic Conservatism]]<br>
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[[File:EnochPowell.png]] [[National Liberalism|Powellism]]<br>
[[File:Reactcross.png]] [[Reactionaryism]]<br>
[[File:Reactcross.png]] [[Reactionaryism]]<br>
[[File:Reclaim.png]] [[Right-Wing Populism|Reclaimism]]<br>
[[File:Salazar.png]] [[Salazarism]]<br>
[[File:Salazar.png]] [[Salazarism]]<br>
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[[File:Pirat.png]] [[Hydrarchy|Pirates]]<br>
[[File:Pirat.png]] [[Hydrarchy|Pirates]]<br>
[[File:Prog-u.png]] [[Progressivism|Progressives]]<br>
[[File:Prog-u.png]] [[Progressivism|Progressives]]<br>
[[File:Gay.png]] [[:Category:LGBT|Gays]]<br>
[[File:Cball-US.png]] [[American Model|Bloody Yanks]] (Except for [[File:Plcn2.png]] [[Paleoconservatism|Paleocon]])
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|quote="It is in vain to say that democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious, or less avaricious than aristocracy or monarchy. It is not true, in fact, and nowhere appears in history. Those passions are the same in all men, under all forms of simple government, and when unchecked, produce the same effects of fraud, violence, and cruelty."
|quote="It is in vain to say that democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious, or less avaricious than aristocracy or monarchy. It is not true, in fact, and nowhere appears in history. Those passions are the same in all men, under all forms of simple government, and when unchecked, produce the same effects of fraud, violence, and cruelty."
|speaker=[[File:Adams.png]] [[Conservative Liberalism|John Adams]]
|speaker=[[File:Adams.png]] [[Conservative Liberalism|John Adams]]
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|quote="Abortion is the only event that modern liberals think too violent and obscene to portray on TV. This is not because they are squeamish or prudish. It is because if people knew what Abortion really looked like, it would destroy their pretence that it is a civilized answer to the problem of what to do about unwanted babies."
|speaker=[[File:PeterHitchens.png]] [[Paternalistic Conservatism|Peter Hitchens]]
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==Relationships==
==Relationships==
===Chaps===
===Chaps===
*[[File:Monarch.png]] [[Monarchism]] - For King/Queen and Country!
*[[File:Conmon.png]] [[Constitutional Monarchism]] - For King/Queen and Country!
*[[File:Trad.png]] [[Traditionalism]] - Fellow T R A D I T I O N<sup><small>TM</small></sup> connoisseur.
*[[File:Trad.png]] [[Traditionalism]] - Fellow T R A D I T I O N<sup><small>TM</small></sup> connoisseur.
*[[File:Imp.png]] [[Imperialism]] - Rule Britannia! Britannia rule the waves! Britons never, never, never shall be slaves!
*[[File:Imp.png]] [[Imperialism]] - Rule Britannia! Britannia rule the waves! Britons never, never, never shall be slaves!
*[[File:CountEn.png]] [[Counter-Enlightenment]] - Cheers!
*[[File:CountEn.png]] [[Counter-Enlightenment]] - Cheers! <s>Just [[File:Hangman.png]] don't do anything barbaric, we are supposed to be gentlemen, after all.</s>
*[[File:Merc.png]] [[Mercantilism]] - I say, would you care for some tea, good sir?
*[[File:Merc.png]] [[Mercantilism]] - I say, would you care for some tea, good sir?
*[[File:Christy.png]] [[Christian Theocracy]] - Religion is the only thing separating us from animals, and by Jove, we must defend our established church.
*[[File:Christy.png]] [[Christian Theocracy]] - Religion is the only thing separating us from animals, and by Jove, we must defend our established church.
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*[[File:Eccon.png]] [[Eco-Conservatism]] - Splendid! We must protect our environment to preserve our culture!
*[[File:Eccon.png]] [[Eco-Conservatism]] - Splendid! We must protect our environment to preserve our culture!
*[[File:Onenatcon.png]] [[One-Nation Conservatism]] - Same as I have said previously.
*[[File:Onenatcon.png]] [[One-Nation Conservatism]] - Same as I have said previously.
*[[File:BoJo.png]] [[Populism|Borisism]] - Splendid chap of mine. I thank you for delivering us Britons Brexit and for placing me at the helm of the House of Commons. <s>You are too moderate.</s>
*[[File:BoJo.png]] [[One-Nation Conservatism|Borisism]] - Splendid chap of mine. I thank you for delivering us Britons Brexit and for placing me at the helm of the House of Commons. <s>You are too moderate.</s>
*[[File:Distributist.png]] [[Distributism]] - Defends me greatly, as we both desire a traditional lifestyle.
*[[File:Distributist.png]] [[Distributism]] - Defends me greatly, as we both desire a traditional lifestyle.
*[[File:Community.png]] [[Communitarianism]] - Jolly good show! Strong communities make strong societies.
*[[File:Community.png]] [[Communitarianism]] - Jolly good show! Strong communities make strong societies.
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*[[File:Pat.png]] [[Patriarchy]] - Very fine chap! Just how society should be run!
*[[File:Pat.png]] [[Patriarchy]] - Very fine chap! Just how society should be run!
*[[File:Carlism.png]] [[Carlism]] - My more religious Spaniard counterpart.
*[[File:Carlism.png]] [[Carlism]] - My more religious Spaniard counterpart.
*[[File:Feuillant.png]] [[Feuillantism]] - Most respectable French Republican ideology.
*[[File:Feuillant.png]] [[Feuillantism]] - Most respectable French Revolutionary ideology.


===Tolerable===
===Tolerable===
*[[File:Abmon.png]] [[Absolute Monarchism]] - The ''Ancien Régime'' of France was superior to any of the revolutionary governments, yet it paved the road for the Revolution in the first place through persistent attempts of centralization as well as meddling in the American rebellion. Besides, Britain itself was nearly ruined in the past by absolutist tendencies.

*[[File:Nalib.png]] [[National Liberalism]] - Kippers are "based" as the young fellows say nowadays, but the rest of them are too nationalist and not traditionalist enough, to my dismay. Enoch Powell was quite a martyr, if I do say so myself.
*[[File:Nalib.png]] [[National Liberalism]] - Kippers are "based" as the young fellows say nowadays, but the rest of them are too nationalist and not traditionalist enough, to my dismay.
*[[File:Reactlib.png]] [[Reactionary Liberalism]] - Another tolerable liberal, if I may, but like those other reactionary blokes, he may tread too far culturally. Rees-Mogg is very splendid however.
*[[File:Reactlib.png]] [[Reactionary Liberalism]] - Another tolerable liberal, if I may say so myself, but like those other reactionary blokes, he may tread too far culturally. Rees-Mogg is very splendid however.
*[[File:Reactcross.png]] [[Reactionaryism]] - You are quite extreme, simmer down and grab a spot of tea.
*[[File:Reactcross.png]] [[Reactionaryism]] - You are quite extreme, simmer down and grab a spot of tea.
*[[File:ReactPix.png]] [[Reactionary Modernism]] - Likewise, actually but I like one of those games you seem to enjoy.
*[[File:Cap.png]] [[Capitalism]] - You cause severe issues when unregulated, still preferable to socialism but I myself prefer traditional systems of economics.
*[[File:Cap.png]] [[Capitalism]] - You cause severe issues when unregulated, still preferable to socialism but I myself prefer traditional systems of economics.
*[[File:Consocf.png]] [[Conservative Socialism]] - Socialism? I beg your pardon.
*[[File:Consocf.png]] [[Conservative Socialism]] - Socialism? I beg your pardon.
*[[File:Reactsoc.png]] [[Reactionary Socialism]] - I like Disraeli but you are quite insane.
*[[File:Reactsoc.png]] [[Reactionary Socialism]] - I like Disraeli too but you are quite insane.
*[[File:Natcon.png]] [[National Conservatism]] - Marvelous, but if you will, please simmer down with the nationalism.
*[[File:Natcon.png]] [[National Conservatism]] - Marvelous, but if you will, please simmer down with the nationalism; Enoch Powell was quite a martyr if I do say so myself.
*[[File:Rpop-tinfoilhat.png]] [[Right-Wing Populism]] - Good Lord, they are annoying... but I do say they have the right ideas.
*[[File:Rpop-tinfoilhat.png]] [[Right-Wing Populism]] - Good Lord, they are annoying... but I do say they have the right ideas.
*[[File:Altl.png]] [[Alt-Lite]] - Same as above, but adapted to modern standarts <s>and even more annoying</s>.
*[[File:Libconserv3.png]] [[Liberal Conservatism]] - Low Tory rubbish, but I have hope that they will prove me wrong.
*[[File:Libconserv3.png]] [[Liberal Conservatism]] - Low Tory rubbish, but I have hope that they will prove me wrong.
*[[File:Altl.png]] [[Alt-Lite]] - Young fellows valuing tradition is most splendid but please do go outside.
*[[File:Ricardosoc.png]] [[Ricardian Socialism]] - Percy Ravenstone was a delightful fellow; however, I must say you are far too well-acquainted with this preposterous notion of "egalitarianism."
*[[File:Ricardosoc.png]] [[Ricardian Socialism]] - Percy Ravenstone was a delightful fellow; however, I must say you are far too well-acquainted with this preposterous notion of "egalitarianism."
*[[File:Muslim 2.png]] [[Islamic Theocracy]] - I wish that you did not migrate en masse to my country, but Hamza Yusuf is a good chap of mine.
*[[File:Muslim 2.png]] [[Islamic Theocracy]] - I wish that you did not migrate en masse to my country, but Hamza Yusuf is a good chap of mine.
*[[File:Korona.png]] [[Monarcho-Capitalism|Braunism]] - Speak English, if you may.
*[[File:Korona.png]] [[Monarcho-Capitalism|Braunism]] - Speak English, please.


===Adversaries===
===Adversaries===
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*[[File:Prog-u.png]] [[Progressivism]] - Good Lord! That is rather disgusting!
*[[File:Prog-u.png]] [[Progressivism]] - Good Lord! That is rather disgusting!
*[[File:Ultraprogressivism.png]] [[Revolutionary Progressivism]] - Good heavens! Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?!
*[[File:Ultraprogressivism.png]] [[Revolutionary Progressivism]] - Good heavens! Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?!
*[[File:Fem.png]] [[Feminism]] - Sod off and get back in the kitchen!
*[[File:Fem.png]] [[Feminism]] - Sod off and get back in the kitchen. Make some pudding, would you?
*[[File:Awaj.png]] [[Anarchism]] - Claims to "support anarchism but not anarchy", but I'm not buying that rubbish. You are but a naughty girl who will get spanked!
*[[File:Awaj.png]] [[Anarchism]] - Claims to "support anarchism but not anarchy", but I'm not buying that rubbish. You are but a naughty girl who will get spanked!
*[[File:Anqueer.png]] [[Queer Anarchism]] - Language, young lady, or man, or... whatever the bloody hell you are!
*[[File:Anqueer.png]] [[Queer Anarchism]] - Language, young lady, or man, or... whatever the bloody hell you are!
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