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<blockquote>''Not to be confused with [[File:Socliber.png]] [[Social Libertarianism]] or [[File:Liberalsoc.png]] [[Liberal Socialism]].''</blockquote>
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{{Ideology
|title=[[File:Libsoc.png]] '''Libertarian Socialism'''
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|caption="Still smiling even if they did take my name!"
|influences=
[[File:Awaj.png]] [[Anarchism]] (
[[File:Thar.png]] [[Anti-Authoritarianism]]<br>
[[File:Anticap.png]] {{PCBA|Anti-Capitalism}}<br>
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[[File:Libmarx.png]] '''{{PCBA|Libertarian Marxism|Libertarian Marxism/<br>Libertarian Communism}}''' [[File:Libertarian Communism.png]] {{Collapse|
*[[File:Thar.png]] [[Anti-Authoritarianism]]
*[[File:Councom.png]] [[Council Communism]]
*[[File:Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism]]
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*[[File:Antistato.png]] Anti-Statocracy
*[[File:Antiwest.png]] Anti-Westernism
*[[File:Antizion.png]] {{PCBA|Anti-Zionism}} (Mostly)
*[[File:BakuninHeg.png]] [[Anarcho-Collectivism|Bakuninism]]
*[[File:Civlibert.png]] [[Civil Libertarianism]]
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*[[File:Jeffersondem2.png]] [[Jeffersonian Democracy]]
*[[File:Kak.png]] [[Kakistocracy]] (Accused)
*[[File:Labzion.png]] [[Labour Zionism]] (Somewhat)<ref>"With all his mostly negative feelings about Israel, Noam Chomsky continues to speak affectionately about the kibbutz [...]"</ref>
*[[File:Liberalsoc.png]] [[Liberal Socialism]]
*[[File:Partip.png]] [[Participism]]
}}
[[File:Johnsonite.png]] '''Johnson-Forest Tendency''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Libmarx.png]] {{PCBA|Libertarian Marxism}}
*[[File:Blacknat.png]] [[Black Nationalism]]
*[[File:Orthlen.png]] [[Leninism]] (Initially)
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[[File:Left-Nietzsche.png]] '''Cuck Philosophy''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Fourier.png]] [[Utopian Socialism|Fourierism]]
*[[File:Libmarx.png]] {{PCBA|Libertarian Marxism}}
*[[File:Hegel.png]] {{PHB|Hegelianism}}
*[[File:Neomarx.png]] [[Neo-Marxism]]
*[[File:Nietzsche.png]] {{PHB|
*[[File:Heidegger.png]] {{PHB|Heideggerianism}}
*[[File:DepressionMale.png]] {{PHB|Schopenhauerism|Philosophical Pessimism}} (Formerly)
*[[File:Postmodernicon.png]] {{PHB|Post-Modernism}}
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}}
[[File:AnTory.png]] '''Orwellism''' {{Collapse|
*[[File:Ancon.png]] [[Anarcho-Conservatism|Tory Anarchism]]▼
*[[File:AnSynd.png]] [[Anarcho-Syndicalism]] (Sympathetic)
*[[File:Thar.png]] [[Anti-Authoritarianism]]
*<s>[[File:Whitesup.png]] [[White Nationalism|Anti-Civil Rights]]</s><ref>He called Paul Robeson, a civil rights activist, "too anti-white"</ref>
*[[File:Antifa.png]] [[Anti-Fascism]]
*[[File:AntiNation.png]] Anti-Nationalism
*[[File:Antipacifism.png]] Anti-Pacifism
*[[File:Anti-Semitic.png]] {{PCBA|Anti-Semitism}}<ref>Called many "crypto-communists" on his list "Jewish" as an insult</ref>
*[[File:Anti-Stalin.png]] Anti-Stalinism
*[[File:
*[[File:CentMarxDemSoc.png]] [[Classical Social Democracy|Independent Labourism]]<ref>https://www.marxists.org/archive/orwell/1938/why-ilp.htm</ref>▼
*[[File:Progconsoc.png]] [[Socialism|Progressive Conservative Socialism]]▼
*[[File:Red Tory.png]] [[Conservative Socialism]]
*[[File:Demsocstar.png]] [[Democratic Socialism]]
*[[File:Homophobia.png]] {{PCBA|Homophobia}}
*[[File:Humanismpix.png]] {{PHB|Humanism}}
▲*[[File:CentMarxDemSoc.png]] [[Classical Social Democracy|Independent Labourism]]<ref>https://www.marxists.org/archive/orwell/1938/why-ilp.htm</ref>
*[[File:LeftAntiCom.png]] [[Liberal Socialism|Left Anti-Communism]]
*<s>[[File:PolState.png]] [[Police Statism]] (Collaborated with)</s><ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orwell%27s_list</ref>
▲*[[File:Progconsoc.png]] [[
*[[File:Socan2.png]] [[Social Anarchism]] (Sympathetic)
*[[File:SocialistPatriot.png]] [[Patriotism|Social Patriotism]]
▲*[[File:Ancon.png]] [[Anarcho-Conservatism|Tory Anarchism]]
}}
[[File:Ultraprogressivism.png]] '''Redneck Revolt''' {{Collapse|
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXazVhlyxQ Rage Against the Machine - Killing in the Name]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUzd9KyIDrM System Of A Down - B.Y.O.B.]<br>
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4L20t8Dvlg System Of A Down - Prison Song]<br>
[https://youtube.com/watch?v=ws_qqvBmKdo Busdriver - Eat Rich] ([[File:Libms.png]] Libertarian Market Socialism)<br>
|theorists=
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*[[File:Socan2.png]] [[Social Anarchism|David Graeber]] (1961-2020) [[File:Cball-US.png]] {{PBW|USAball|USA}}
*[[File:Ecosoc.png]] [[Eco-Socialism|Naomi Klein]] (1970-) [[File:Cball-Canada.png]] {{PBW|Canadaball|Canada}}
*[[File:Libms.png]] [[Libertarian Market Socialism|Marxbeard]] (19??-) [[File:Cball-US.png]] {{PBW|USAball|USA}}
*[[File:Boric.png]] [[Progressivism|Gabriel Boric]] (1986-) [[File:Cball-Chile.png]] {{PBW|Chileball|Chile}}
*[[File:Vaush.png]] [[Liberal Socialism|Ian "Vaush" Kochinski]] (1994-) [[File:Cball-US.png]] USA (Self-proclaimed)
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*[[File:LeftPartyicon.png]] [[Democratic Socialism|Jonas Sjöstedt]] (1964-) [[File:Cball-Sweden.png]] {{PBW|Swedenball|Sweden}}
*[[File:HBomb.png]] [[Left-Wing Populism|Harry 'Hbomberguy' Brewis]] (1992-) [[File:Cball-UK.png]] UK (Self-proclaimed)
*[[File:Badmouse.png]] [[Revolutionary Progressivism|Dave 'BadMouse' Jacobs]] (1994-) [[File:Cball-UK.png]] {{PBW|UKball|UK}}
*[[File:Islamic_Marxism.png]] [[Islamic Socialism|Ash Sakar]] (1992-) [[File:Cball-UK.png]] {{PBW|UKball|UK}}
*[[File:Left-Nietzsche.png]] [[Neo-Marxism|Jonas Čeika]] (?) [[File:Cball-Norway.png]] {{PBW|Norwayball|Norway}}
}}
|likes=
[[Left-Wing Populism|RATM]] (
SOAD<br>
[[File:Zapa.png]][[File:Rojava.png]] Real Socialist experiences [[File:Makhnovism.png]][[File:FAI.png]]
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|speaker=[[File:Chomsky.png]] [[Anarcho-Syndicalism|Noam Chomsky]]
}}
'''Libertarian Socialism''' (Also known as ''' Stateless Socialism''' or '''Free Socialism''') encompasses a wide range of ideologies, but mainly rejects the conception of [[File:Soc-h.png]] socialism as a [[File:Statesoc.png]] statist form where the state bureaucracy retains centralized control of the economy. Workers within a libertarian socialist society have '''Direct Democratic control''' over the means of production. [[File:Libms.png]] Some types of Libertarian Socialism believe that '''Markets '''can exist within a '''Socialist '''society, as a libertarian form of [[File:Marketsoc.png]] [[Market Socialism]], while others, such as [[File:Libmarx.png]] Libertarian Marxism, and [[File:Ancom.png]] [[Anarcho-Communism]], do not. Some Libertarian Socialists wish to abolish the state altogether, like the aforementioned Anarcho-Communism, while others, such as [[File:Minsocf.png]] [[Minarcho-Socialism]] believe that a small state can exist within a libertarian socialist framework.
==History==
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==Beliefs and Theory (WIP)==
Similar to [[File:Auton.png]] [[Autonomism|autonomism]], libertarian socialism believes in giving the average person as much freedom as possible. To do this, [[File:Cap.png]] [[Capitalism|capitalism]] must be abolished. Libertarian Socialism is seen as a more moderate variant of [[File:Ancom.png]] Anarcho-Commumism. Most libertarian socialists believe in Minarcho-Socialism, which is the idea that a limited [[File:Statesoc.png]] socialist state existing. Libertarian Socialism opposes [[File:ML.png]] Marxism Leninism, seeing it as a variant of [[File:Statecap.png]]State Capitalism. Libertarian Socialism believes in worker control of the means of production, similar to [[File:Synd.png]] Syndicalism.
Some variants of Libertarian Socialism [[File:Libms.png]]believe in a [[File:Marketsoc.png]] Market Socialist economy, which the belief that markets and a socialist economy can coexist.
Libertarian Socialists support civil disobedience and the rejection of Authoritarianism, similar to most Anarchists and Libertarians.
Most Libertarian socialists are internationalists who reject [[File:Nation.png]] nationalism. However, some variants of the ideology are nationalists (see Independence Anarchism).
==Variants==
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*[[File:Socdem.png]] [[Social Democracy]] - A slightly socialist guy, but he's way too moderate. He thinks that reforming capitalism is better than abolishing it, and idk about him...
*[[File:Marketsoc.png]] [[Market Socialism]] - You can't go wrong with co-ops or workplace democracy, however, most of my followers are skeptical of markets.
*[[File:Crusade_of_Romanianism.png]] [[Crusade of Romanianism]] - My...
*[[File:Liberalsoc.png]] [[Liberal Socialism]] - We both love freedom and Chomsky seems to admire you a lot, but many of you are too moderate. Plaus Vaush is a hypocritical lib.
===Enemies===
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*[[File:Nazcap-Hat.png]] [[National Capitalism]] - Why do you have to exist?!
*[[File:Necon.png]] [[Neoconservatism]] - Piss off, imperialist scum!
*[[File:Libertarian.png]] [[Libertarianism|Fake "Libertarian"]] -
*[[File:PolState.png]] [[Police Statism]] - FUCK YOU! I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!
*[[File:Imp.png]] [[Imperialism]] - WHY DO YOU ALWAYS SEND THE POOR!
*[[File:Nazi.png]] [[Nazism|National "Socialism"]] - ThE nAzIs ArE sOcIaLiStS bEcAuSE "sOcIaLiStS" iS lItErAlLY iN tHeIr NaME. ''Sure''. The social "Darwinistic" belief that only the so-called "strong" should survive is ''totally'' something a socialist would believe in.
*[[File:ML.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism]] - "mY [[File:Sralin.png]] dIcTAtOrsHiP iS rEAl sOciAlIsM bEcauSE I pUt "WoRkErS" iN the NaME!" Bullshit I say!
*[[File:Polpot.png]] [[Pol Potism]] - You’re a danger to both your own country and to the socialist movement at large. [[Anarcho-Syndicalism|Chomsky]] did not support you, he just knew that you were no different than you capitalist equivalents!
*[[File:Ancapf.png]] [[Anarcho-Capitalism]] - You're the real oxymoron here, so stop denying it.
*[[File:Minarchist.png]] [[Minarchism]] - Same as above.
*[[File:Neoliberal-icon.png]] [[Neoliberalism]] -
*[[File:Republican_chile.png]] [[Reactionary Liberalism|Kastism]] - Lol cope harder fascist.
*[[File:Thatcher.png]] [[Neoliberalism|Thatcherism]] - FUCK YOU, NEOLIBERAL WITCH!
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*[[File:3way.png]] [[Third Way]] - Piss off you woke imperialist trash! <s>And stop posting videos claiming Chomsky is a genocide denier, he's just saying they ''aren't really genocides'', which isn't the same thing I swear.</s>
*[[File:Obj.png]] [[Objectivism]] - You don't want freedom; you want everyone to obey the orders of the bosses who you think are the greatest thing ever.
*[[File:8ValuesBall.png]] [[File:Centrist-purple.png]] A whole load of political tests
==Further Information==
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*[[File:Ancom.png]] [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVY0aIaw-V9GbWmlab4Z_dw Libertarian Communist Platform]
*[[File:Libmarx.png]] [https://m.youtube.com/@jonasceikaCCK CCK Philosophy]
*[[File:Badmouse.png]] [https://m.youtube.com/@BadMouseProductions BadMouse]
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