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{{Alias|Libertarian.png|Libertarianism|[[File:Regulationism.png]] "Socialism" is when the [[Regulationism|government does stuff]]}}<br>
{{Alias|Libertarian.png|Libertarianism|[[File:Regulationism.png]] "Socialism" is when the [[Regulationism|government does stuff]]}}<br>
{{Alias|Libertarian.png|Libertarianism|Literally [[File:Sanders.png]] [[Left-Wing Populism|Bernie Sanders!]]}}<br>{{Alias|Thatcher.png|Neoliberalism|Literally [[File:ClementAttlee.png]] [[Democratic Socialism|Clement Attlee!]]}}
{{Alias|Libertarian.png|Libertarianism|Literally [[File:Sanders.png]] [[Left-Wing Populism|Bernie Sanders!]]}}<br>{{Alias|Thatcher.png|Neoliberalism|Literally [[File:ClementAttlee.png]] [[Democratic Socialism|Clement Attlee!]]}}
|alignments = [[File: Authleft.png]] [[:Category: Authoritarian Left|AuthLeft]] <br>
|alignments = [[File:Authleft.png]] [[:Category: Authoritarian Left|AuthLeft]] <br>
[[File: Soc.png]] [[:Category:Socialists|Socialists]]
[[File:Soc.png]] [[:Category:Socialists|Socialists]]
|influences=
|influences=
[[File:Sec.png]] [[Authoritarianism]]<br>
[[File:Sec.png]] [[Authoritarianism]]<br>
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Proto-State Socialism can be seen in Thomas More's Utopia, as his ideal society has state control over production and housing, combined with a slave system. George Fitzhugh can also debatably be seen as a proto-state socialist as he claimed slavery was the best form of socialism while opposing free-market capitalism as being anti-slavery (and saw it as a bad thing).
Proto-State Socialism can be seen in Thomas More's Utopia, as his ideal society has state control over production and housing, combined with a slave system. George Fitzhugh can also debatably be seen as a proto-state socialist as he claimed slavery was the best form of socialism while opposing free-market capitalism as being anti-slavery (and saw it as a bad thing).


State Socialism arguably first was implemented in 1871 when the [[File:Soc-h.png]] Paris Commune came around as a 'state'. But this is up for debate as the [[File:Soc-h.png]] Paris Commune acted more like [[File: Libsoc.png]] [[Libertarian Socialism]] and sometimes even [[File: Ancom.png]] [[Anarcho-Communism]], and didn't really function as a state nor was recognized as such.
State Socialism arguably first was implemented in 1871 when the [[File:Soc-h.png]] Paris Commune came around as a 'state'. But this is up for debate as the [[File:Soc-h.png]] Paris Commune acted more like [[File:Libsoc.png]] [[Libertarian Socialism]] and sometimes even [[File:Ancom.png]] [[Anarcho-Communism]], and didn't really function as a state nor was recognized as such.


The real start of State Socialism was in 1917 when the [[File:Bolshevism ball.png]] Bolsheviks, led by [[File:Orthlen.png]] [[Leninism|Vladimir Lenin]], overthrew the [[File:Cball-Russia.png]] Russian Republic and established the [[File:Orthlen.png]] Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (RSFSR). In 1922, this became the [[File:ML.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Union of Soviet Socialist Republics]] (USSR). The [[File:ML.png]] USSR changed to become even more State Socialist after [[File:Stalin.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Stalin]] took over in 1925 and combined it with [[File:PolState.png]] [[Police Statism]] and [[File:Sec.png]] [[Authoritarianism]]. A lot of this was ruled back during the [[File:Khrusch.png]] [[Khrushchevism|Khrushchevist]] and, especially, [[File:Gorb.png]] [[Liberal Socialism|Gorbachevist]] eras of the [[File:ML.png]] USSR.
The real start of State Socialism was in 1917 when the [[File:Bolshevism ball.png]] Bolsheviks, led by [[File:Orthlen.png]] [[Leninism|Vladimir Lenin]], overthrew the [[File:Cball-Russia.png]] Russian Republic and established the [[File:Orthlen.png]] Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (RSFSR). In 1922, this became the [[File:ML.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Union of Soviet Socialist Republics]] (USSR). The [[File:ML.png]] USSR changed to become even more State Socialist after [[File:Stalin.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Stalin]] took over in 1925 and combined it with [[File:PolState.png]] [[Police Statism]] and [[File:Sec.png]] [[Authoritarianism]]. A lot of this was ruled back during the [[File:Khrusch.png]] [[Khrushchevism|Khrushchevist]] and, especially, [[File:Gorb.png]] [[Liberal Socialism|Gorbachevist]] eras of the [[File:ML.png]] USSR.
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===Friends===
===Friends===
*[[File: ML.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism]] - Me, but with a new name, backstory, lore, etc.
*[[File:ML.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism]] - Me, but with a new name, backstory, lore, etc.
*[[File: Absoc.png]] [[Arab Socialism]] - Based Arab counterpart who isn't afraid to use state power.
*[[File:Absoc.png]] [[Arab Socialism]] - Based Arab counterpart who isn't afraid to use state power.
*[[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism]] - My father, from whom I got all my views. We're very similar. He needs more state, though.
*[[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism]] - My father, from whom I got all my views. We're very similar. He needs more state, though.
*[[File:Blanqui.png]] [[Blanquism]] - Based! You really get me!
*[[File:Blanqui.png]] [[Blanquism]] - Based! You really get me!
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*[[File:Fabian.png]] [[Fabian Socialism]] - I love you son, but you scare me.
*[[File:Fabian.png]] [[Fabian Socialism]] - I love you son, but you scare me.
*[[File:Marxflag.png]] [[Marxism]] - Realizes that socialism needs the state in order to be achieved. But why do you wanna get rid of it afterwards? Your [[File:ML.png]] son is way cooler anyway.
*[[File:Marxflag.png]] [[Marxism]] - Realizes that socialism needs the state in order to be achieved. But why do you wanna get rid of it afterwards? Your [[File:ML.png]] son is way cooler anyway.
*[[File: Nazbol.png]] [[National Bolshevism]] - I can tolerate you since our views are mostly similar, but if you pull a Nazi on me, '''I'll make you regret it'''.
*[[File:Nazbol.png]] [[National Bolshevism]] - I can tolerate you since our views are mostly similar, but if you pull a Nazi on me, '''I'll make you regret it'''.
*[[File:Utsoc.png]] [[Utopian Socialism]] - Most are too libertarian, but Moore supported an authoritarian society.
*[[File:Utsoc.png]] [[Utopian Socialism]] - Most are too libertarian, but Moore supported an authoritarian society.
*[[File:Ancom.png]] [[Anarcho-Communism]] - HAHAHA, you want to abolish the transition state that quickly? Good luck when foreign forces and infighting destroy your socialist utopia!!
*[[File:Ancom.png]] [[Anarcho-Communism]] - HAHAHA, you want to abolish the transition state that quickly? Good luck when foreign forces and infighting destroy your socialist utopia!!
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