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Can you fucking stop Abrokendoor

Abrokendoor stop fucking editing, the houthis are not social justice advocates, have you seen how they treat women and LGBT people?!

The wiki itself explains what Social Justice is, it has less to do with social progressivism and more with economic progressivism. Conservatives, like the Houthis, can advocate for social justice just like John Paul II did.

IT'S TIME TO STOP

• - I'll stop when he gets banned

Also more proof that Houthis aren't social justice advocates https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houthi_movement#Abuse_of_women_and_girls

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houthi_movement#Abuse_of_LGBTI_people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houthi_movement#Abuse_of_migrants

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houthi_movement#Persecution_of_the_Yemenite_Jewish_community

I don't know what the correlation is, social conservatives can advocate for social justice

Ah yes, Abuse = social conservatism. Congratulations, you just successfully framed yourself as an unironic totalitarian

User:FanOfWolves -These cases of abuse are motivated BY social conservativism.

Your proof is just a bunch of unrelated stuff, I literally had no idea how that "proves" anything

You have nothing to prove either

Stop edit warring, abrokendoor

Literaly edited with my argument in there, then three middle schoolers came in just to be wrong about it, how embarrassing

Is anyone on discord? Someone should really call admins to ban terrorist supporters (no name specified)

ban abrokendoor pls

ban FanOfWolves and DarkEggChocolateBowser pls

- Why should I be banned? you're the person who started it + you added false info with 0 reasoning other than your bullshit opinion no one cares about + the other khomenoid got consequences so you should be banned on this wiki too

- Which "consequences" did I get, buddy? You should be banned for removing truthful information for biased reasons and vandalism

Lmao he literally said "the other khomenoid got "consequences"", you shouldn't be saying this at all if you aren't khomeinism alt account

- That's quite the allegation, my account was created way before than his, his style of writing is nothing similar to mine. I think that dude is Iranian too

Ban abrokendoor mods

- Mods should decide if the Houthi movement advocates for Social Justice, not you three

bro thinks hes the mod

- Stop edit warring, abrokendoor.

User:FanOfWolves - Abrokendoor, by your own argument, you should just concede and let a mod decide.

- DECB accuses me of edit warring, I revert it back to how it was before the edit war and dude starts edit warring, hilarious

Solution

okay guys we can make new icons for islamic and christian social justice and place them under the theocracy pages under the belief section https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice#Religious_perspectives

- Or let the Houthi movement have Social Justice like the Muslim Brotherhood or John Paul II, it shouldn't change just because some fucking idiot thinks otherwise

- I tried to make a compromise on the Khomeinism page, it's your decision whether to continue the war or not. I somewhat get why the MB would have "Social Justice", but the Houthis having social justice doesn't make any sense.

- You're clearly completely ignorant, really not sure if you're in middle school yet after that.

- Do you accept my compromise on the Khomeinism page? Don't deflect an answer. You have a chance to end the war right here by accepting it, and it's your fault if this continues.

- (Self-proclaimed) is used for when someone straight out bullshits. (Debatably) is better in my opinion.

- I somewhat disagree with you, as the Iranian revolution wasn't ran by Khomeinists, the revolution only succeeded because of left-wing militants. I will add back the "Self-proclaimed, debatable" since it's accurate and lenient.

- "the revolution only succeeded because of left-wing militants" what a claim, I think you're completely ignorant. Also Social Justice still is predominant among Khomeinists.

kami- I think decb is an artist so he could make an Islamic and Christian social justice icons. solves the problem and shows the difference between modern progressive social justice and religious social justice

Philosophical debates on ongoing edit war arguments

Abrokendoor literally said that 'There's no "permission"' , I was not quite aware that Abrokendoor was an avaritionist but I think this solves pretty much every reason why he's doing any of this in the first place lol

P.S. It seems that... ADMIN IS DEAD, AND WE HAVE KILLED HIM! LONG LIVE ANARCHY!!!!! /s

Moderator here

• TEB - A day ago I was notified of the controversy on my talk page and I want to say I sent it to the mod staff on discord for review. Unfortunate to say I haven't gotten an response but here's my personal take:

Social justice, as I can understand it is progressive in economics more than sociology. While the Houthis are nowhere near progressive like their Iranian counterparts (especially regarding their treatment of women, jews and gays), I understand the social justice comes from their Islamic values. I think their should be a icon for "muslim social justice" like Kami suggested.
Yeah, I see the varying interpetations behind the idea of "social justice".

- Social Justice has been a concept in religions like Catholicism and Islam for centuries. Why should the wiki take the western liberal interpretation of it as the only true one?

- Also, the Houthis promoting social justice makes sociological sense, since their sect (Zaydi Shia) has been marginalized and opressed by the Yemeni government since before these kids were even born