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|caption="They don’t know that progress can preserve traditions, or at least, traditions are compatible with progress!"

Hegelianism-Essentialism Synthesis<br>

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[[File:AuthProgconf.png]] '''Authoritarian Progressive Conservatism''' [[File:AuthProgconfalt.png]] {{Collapse|

*[[File:Authcap.png]] [[Authoritarian Capitalism]] (Often)

*[[File:Authoritarian Conservatism.png]] [[Authoritarian Conservatism]]

*[[File:Authprog.png]] [[Progressivism|Authoritarian Progressivism]]

*[[File:Socauth.png]] [[Social Authoritarianism]] (Often)

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[[File:AltModern.png]] '''Alternate Modernism''' {{Collapse|

*[[File:Fash.png]] [[Fascism]]

*[[File:PalUltranat.png]] [[Ultranationalism|Paligenetic Nationalism]]

*[[File:Romanticism.png]] {{PHB|Romanticism}}

*[[File:Ultraprogressive Reactionarism.png]] Ultraprogressive Reactionaryism

*[[File:3P.png]] {{PCBA|Third Position}}

*'''Factions:'''

**[[File:ReactPix.png]] [[Reactionary Modernism]]

[[File:PrgessTrad.png]] '''Progressive Traditionalism''' {{Collapse|

*[[File:ML.png]] [[Marxism-Leninism]] (Somewhat)

*[[File:SocialConservative.png]] [[Traditionalism|Social Conservatism]]

*[[File:Prog-u.png]] [[Progressivism]]

*'''Factions:'''

**[[File:NatProg.png]] [[Bull Moose Progressivism]]

[[File:RevProgcon.png]] '''Revolutionary Progressive Conservatism''' {{Collapse|

*[[File:Anti-Colonial.png]] Anti-Colonialism

*[[File:Antiimp.png]] {{PCBA|Anti-Imperialism}}

*[[File:Ultraprogressivism.png]] [[Revolutionary Progressivism]]

*[[File:RevNat.png]] [[Revolutionary Nationalism]]

*'''Factions:'''

**[[File:Hochi.png]] [[Ho Chi Minh Thought]]

**[[File:3princ.png]] [[Tridemism]]

[[File:TradPrgess.png]] '''Traditional Progressivism''' {{Collapse|

*[[File:Hcon.png]] [[Homoconservatism]] (Somewhat)

*[[File:SocialProgressive.png]] [[Progressivism|Social Progressivism]]

*[[File:Trad.png]] [[Traditionalism]]

*'''Factions:'''

**[[File:Native.png]] [[Indigenism]]

[[File:Ultraprogressive Reactionarism.png]] '''Ultraprogressive Reactionaryism''' {{Collapse|

*[[File:Cultural Nationalism.png]] [[Cultural Nationalism]]

*[[File:Reactcross.png]] [[Reactionaryism]]

*[[File:ReactPix.png]] [[Reactionary Modernism]]

*[[File:RevNat.png]] [[Revolutionary Nationalism]]

*[[File:Ultraprogressivism.png]] [[Revolutionary Progressivism]]

[[File:Nordcon.png]] '''Nordic Conservatism''' {{Collapse|

*[[File:Atlanticism.png]] [[Neoconservatism|Atlanticism]] (Especially since 2022)

*[[File:Cdem.png]] [[Christian Democracy]]

*[[File:Conmon.png]] [[Constitutional Monarchism]]

*[[File:Eccon.png]] [[Eco-Conservatism]]

*[[File:Econlib.png]] [[Fiscal Conservatism|Economic Liberalism]]

*[[File:Libconserv3.png]] [[Liberal Conservatism]]

*[[File:Nordmodel.png]] [[Nordic Model]]

*[[File:PatProgCon.png]] [[Paternalistic Conservatism]]

*[[File:Cball-EU.png]] [[European Federalism|Pro-Europeanism]]

*[[File:Prog-u.png]] [[Progressivism]]

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[[File:C. S. Lewis.png]] '''C. S. Lewisism''' {{Collapse|

*[[File:Anglican Theocracyf.png]] [[Protestant Theocracy|Anglican Theology]]

*[[File:Anti-Colonial.png]] Anti-Colonialism

*[[File:AntiConsumerism.png]] Anti-Consumerism

*[[File:Anti-Racism.png]] Anti-Racism

*[[File:Antitot.png]] [[Anti-Authoritarianism|Anti-Totalitarianism]]

*[[File:Atheism.png]] {{PHB|Atheism}} (Formerly)

*[[File:Hegel.png]] British Idealism

*[[File:Chesterton.png]] [[Distributism|Chestertonism]]

*[[File:Cdem.png]] [[Christian Democracy]]

*[[File:Community.png]] [[Communitarianism]]

*[[File:Mat.png]] [[Maternalism|Complementarianism]]

*[[File:Conlib.png]] [[Conservative Liberalism]]

*[[File:Eccon.png]] [[Eco-Conservatism]]

*[[File:Natural Law.png]] [[Noocracy|Natural Law Theory]]

*[[File:PatProgCon.png]] [[Paternalistic Conservatism]]

*[[File:Pat.png]] [[Patriarchy]]

*[[File:Secular.png]] [[Secularism]]

*[[File:Tolkien.png]] [[Anarcho-Monarchism|Tolkienism]]

*[[File:Trad.png]] [[Traditionalism]]

[[File:Fivestaricon.png]] '''Di Maioism''' {{Collapse|

*[[File:Antiwest.png]] Anti-NATO (Formerly)

*[[File:Antipop.png]] Anti-Populism

*[[File:Atlanticism.png]] [[Neoconservatism|Atlanticism]]

*[[File:Cdem.png]] [[Christian Democracy]]

*[[File:Draghi.png]] [[Technoliberalism|Draghism]] (Sympathetic)

*[[File:EnviState.png]] [[Environmentalism]]

*[[File:Cball-EU.png]] [[European Federalism|Europeanism]] (Recently)

*[[File:Euroscept.png]] [[Separatism#Euroscepticism|Euroscepticism]] (Formerly)

*[[File:Fivestaricon.png]] [[Populism|Five Starism]] (Formerly)

*[[File:IslamCap.png]] [[Monarcho-Capitalism|Islamic Capitalism]] (Sympathetic)

*[[File:BrotherOfItaly.png]] [[National Conservatism|Melonism]] (Recently kinda sympathetic)

*[[File:Moder.png]] [[Moderatism]]

*[[File:Crony.png]] [[Kleptocracy|Nepotism]] (Accused in 2020)

*[[File:Russophilia.png]] [[Authoritarian Conservatism|Russophilia]] (Before 2022)

*[[File:Ukrainophilia.png]] Ukrainophilia

*[[File:Welf.png]] [[Welfarism]]

*[[File:XiJinpingThoughtf.png]] [[Dengism|Xi Jinping Thought]] (Sympathetic)

[[File:HeloisaHelena.png]] '''Heloisa Helenism''' {{Collapse|

*[[File: Globnat.png]] [[Alter-Globalism]]

*[[File:AntiabortFem.png]] [[Feminism|Anti-Abortion Feminism]]<ref>https://www.camara.leg.br/noticias/120357-ex-senadora-heloisa-helena-se-manifesta-contra-o-aborto/</ref><ref>https://www12.senado.leg.br/noticias/materias/2005/04/08/heloisa-helena-defende-planejamento-familiar-e-critica-aborto</ref><ref>https://spectrejournal.com/feminist-resistance-against-war/</ref>

*[[File:Antiimp.png]] {{PCBA|Anti-Imperialism}}

*[[File:Anti-Lula.png]] Anti-Lulism

*[[File:Antizion.png]] {{PCBA|Anti-Zionism}}

*[[File:Christsoc.png]] [[Christian Socialism]]

*[[File:ChristDemHum.png]] {{PHB|Humanism|Christian Humanism}}

*[[File:CiroGomes.png]] [[Social Capitalism|Cirism]] (Sympathetic)<ref>https://www.poder360.com.br/partidos-politicos/heloisa-helena-diverge-de-rede-e-apoia-ciro-gomes/</ref>

*[[File:Demsocstar.png]] [[Democratic Socialism]]

*[[File:Ecosoc.png]] [[Eco-Socialism]]

*[[File:Gay.png]] Pro-LGBT+

*[[File:EconPop.png]] [[Protectionism|Economic Populism]]

*[[File:Soc21.png]] [[Socialism of the 21st Century]]

*[[File:BrazilREDE.png]] [[Green Liberalism|Sustainability Network]] (Currently)

*[[File:Trot.png]] [[Trotskyism]]<ref>https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/fsp/brasil/fc2804200304.htm</ref>

*'''Historically:'''

**[[File:Psolism.png]] [[Socialism of the 21st Century|Socialism and Liberty Party]] (2004-2015)

**[[File:BrazilPT.png]] [[Social Democracy|Workers' Party]] (1985-2003)

[[File:SocialGaulle.png]] '''New Society/Chabanism''' {{Collapse|

*[[File:AntiNazism.png]] Anti-Nazism

*[[File:Anticommunism.png]] Anti-Communism

*[[File:Civnat.png]] [[Civic Nationalism]]

*[[File:Dirigisme.png]] [[State Capitalism|Dirigisme]]

*[[File:Gaullismicon2.png]] [[Gaullism]]

*[[File:Patcon.png]] [[Paternalistic Conservatism]]

*[[File:Reform.png]] [[Reformism]]

*[[File:Soccap.png]] [[Social Capitalism]]

*[[File:Socdem.png]] [[Social Democracy]] (Accused)

*[[File:SoftProEU.png]] [[European Federalism|Soft Pro-Europeanism]]

*[[File:Syncretic.png]] [[Syncretism (Disambiguation)|Syncretism]]

[[File:Turguniev.png]] '''Turgunievismo''' {{Collapse|

*[[File:Ancapf.png]] [[Anarcho-Capitalism]]

*[[File:Thar.png]] [[Anti-Authoritarianism]]

*[[File:AntiDengism.png]] Anti-China Sentiment

*[[File:Anticommunism.png]] Anti-Communism

*[[File:Right-AnEn.png]] [[Climate Skepticism]]

*[[File:AntiPutinism.png]] Anti-Putinism

*[[File:Antisoc.png]] Anti-Socialism

*[[File:Neobert.png]] [[Neolibertarianism]]

*[[File:Austrobert.png]] [[Austrian School]]

*[[File:Bolsonarism - alt.png]] [[Reactionary Liberalism|Bolsonarism]]

*[[File:Cryptan.png]] [[Techno-Anarchism|Crypto-Anarchism]]

*[[File:Fem.png]] [[Feminism|Gender Equality]] (Some)

*[[File:Hoppef.png]] [[Hoppeanism]]

*[[File:Kak-Dunce.png]] <s>[[Kakistocracy]] (Accused)</s>

*[[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]] (Accused)

*[[File:Mediastocracy flair.png]] [[Mediacracy]]

*[[File:Gay.png]] Pro-LGBT+

*[[File:Ukrainophilia.png]] Pro-Ukraine Sentiment

*[[File:Rpop-tinfoilhat.png]] [[Right-Wing Populism]]

*[[File:RWtech.png]] [[Capitalism|Techno-Capitalism]]

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[[File:Sufism.png]] '''Zhang Chengzhi Thought/Sufi Maoism''' [[File:SufiMao.png]] {{Collapse|

*[[File:Anticap.png]] Anti-Capitalism

*[[File:Anti-Confucian.png]] Anti-Confucianism

*[[File:AntiDem.png]] Anti-Democracy

*[[File:AntiLibIcon.png]] Anti-Liberalism

*[[File:AntiDengism.png]] Anti-Modern Sino

*[[File:CountEn.png]] [[Counter-Enlightenment]]

*[[File:Anti-Christian.png]] Christophobia

*[[File:Muslim 2.png]] Islamization of China

*[[File:Muslim 2.png]] [[Islamic Theocracy]]

*[[File:JewTheo.png]] Judaism (Sympathetic)

*[[File:LuXun.png]] [[Revolutionary Progressivism|Lu Xun Thought]]

*[[File:Mao.png]] [[Maoism]]

*[[File:Nietzsche.png]] {{PHB|Nietzscheanism}}

*[[File:Sufism.png]] [[Islamic Theocracy|Sufism]]

*[[File:Superfash.png]] Evolaism (Allegedly)

*[[File:Trad.png]] [[Traditionalism]]

*[[File:Ultraprogressive Reactionarism.png]] Ultraprogressive Reactionaryism

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[[File:AnProgcon.png]] [[Anarcho-Conservatism|Anarcho-Progressive Conservatism]]<br>

[[File:PatProgCon.png]] [[Paternalistic Conservatism|Paternalistic Progressive Conservatism]]<br>

[[File:Progusa2.png]] [[American Model|Progressive Americana]]<br>

[[File:UPRONA.png]] [[Civic Nationalism|Rwagasorism]]<br>

[[File:Socauth.png]] [[Social Authoritarianism]] (Factions, most)<br>

[[File:Soc21.png]] [[Socialism of the 21st Century]] (Factions, most)<br>

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[[File:Conservative.png|link=:Category:Conservatives]] [[:Category:Conservatives|{{Color|#00AEEF|'''Conservatives'''}}]]<br>

{{Info|Authoritarian Left|AuthLeft}} ([[File:Sufism.png]] Zhang Chengzhi Thought)<br>

{{Info|Left Unity|LeftUnity}} ([[File:HeloisaHelena.png]] Heloisa Helenism) <br>

{{Info|Libertarian Right|LibRight}} ([[File:Turguniev.png]] Turgunievismo)<br>

[[File:Trad.png|link=:Category:Culturally Right]] [[:Category:Culturally Right|{{Color|#8BC34A|'''Culturally Right'''}}]] ([[File:C. S. Lewis.png]] C. S. Lewisism)<br>

[[File:Religious.png|link=:Category:Religious]] [[:Category:Religious|{{Color|#00ABF4|'''Religious'''}}]] ([[File:C. S. Lewis.png]] C. S. Lewisism)<br>

**[[File:Tolkien.png]] [[Anarcho-Monarchism|John Ronald Reuel Tolkien]] (1892-1973) [[File:Cball-England.png]] {{PBW|Englandball|England}}

**[[File:Hołownia.png]] [[Christian Democracy|Szymon Hołownia]] (1976-) [[File:Cball-Poland.png]] {{PBW|Polandball|Poland}}

**[[File:Louverture.png]] [[Abolitionism|Toussaint Louverture]] (1743-1803) [[File:Cball-Haiti.png]] {{PBW|Haitiball|Haiti}}

**[[File:HeloisaHelena.png]] [[Eco-Socialism|Heloísa Helena]] (1962-) [[File:Cball-Brazil.png]] {{PBW|Brazilball|Brazil}}

**[[File:Cball-TaipingHeavenlyKingdom.png]] [[Christian Socialism|Hong Xiuquan]] (1814-1864) [[File:Cball-Qing.png]] {{PBW|Qingball|Qing Empire}}

**[[File:RamaV.png]] [[Enlightened Absolutism|Chulalongkorn]] (1853-1910) [[File:Cball-Siam.png]] Kingdom of Siam

**[[File:Tatenokai.png]] [[Showa Statism|Yukio Mishima]] (1925-1970) [[File:Cball-Japan.png]] {{PBW|Japanball|Japan}}

}}

*'''[[File:Cball-AfricanUnion.png]] Africa''' {{Collapse|

**[[File:Cball-EthiopianEmpire.png]] [[State Oriental Orthodoxy|Haile Selassie I]] (1892-1975), Ethiopian Empire

*[[File:Bonaparte.png]] [[Bonapartism|First French Empire]] (1804-1815)

*[[File:Cball-AustriaHungary.png]] [[Constitutional Monarchism|Austria-Hungary]] (1867-1918)

*[[File:Cball-GermanEmpire.png]] [[Bismarckism|German Empire]] (1871-1918)

*[[File:Cball-Taiwan.png]] [[National Liberalism|Taiwan]] [[File:Glib.png]]{{Refn|Taiwan is known for its blend of progressive policies (Feminism and LGBT rights) and unwavering support for traditional cultures (especially when it comes to heritage and folk peoples).|group = Note}}

*[[File:Cball-Norway.png]] [[Nordic Model|Norway]] [[File:Nordcon.png]]

*[[File:Cball-Japan.png]] [[Reactionary Liberalism|Japan]] [[File:LDP(Japan).png]]

*[[File:Cball-UK.png]] [[Ceremonial Monarchism|United Kingdom]] [[One-Nation Conservatism|of Great Britain and Northern Ireland]] [[File:Onenatcon.png]]

*[[File:Cball-US.png]] [[American Model|United States of America]] [[File:AmericanModel 1.png]]{{Refn|The US is known to include states that are found on both sides of the cultural spectrum (like [[File:Cball-Texas.png]] Texas on the general right, and [[File:Cball-California.png]] California on the general left), thus making the nation befitting of the category.|group=Note}}

*[[File:Cball-Brazil.png]] [[Kleptocracy|Bra]][[Agrarian Capitalism|zil]]

*[[File:Cball-Indonesia.png]] [[Pancasila|Indonesia]] [[File:Panc.png]]

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2msh0jut2Y Spirit in the Sky]<br>

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N2IBBxJ8b8 Money Machine Bardcore]<br>

'''Ultraprogressive Reactionaryism''' is a concept in the PCM community that combines stances from [[File:Ultraprogressivism.png]] [[Revolutionary Progressivism]] and [[File:Reactcross.png]] [[Reactionaryism]] to describe historic regimes and figures who blended nostalgia and progressive sentiments. Ultraprogressive Reactionaries wish to dismantle existing traditional values and institutions with a simultaneous desire to restore, rejuvenate, or idealize certain aspects of the past. This hybrid approach, while contradictory at first glance, seeks to create a new societal order which destroys elements of the past, deemed outdated or oppressive, while reinventing or modernizing historical traditions to fit a desired future. In other words, they revitalize select traditions they feel creates a desirable society while destroying, through quick graduations, the rest. It can be seen as a form of [[File:ReactPix.png]] [[Reactionary Modernism]] applied to culture and society, not just technology.

The best example of this concept is Fiume under D'Annunzio. His regime blended a desire to create new traditions and reject conventional morality, including a promotion of the Bohemian lifestyle, with a rejuvenation of Italian traditions and symbols (such as Roman imagery). This blend of tradition and progress would inspire both the [[File:Fut2.png]] [[Futurism|Futurists]] and the original [[File:Fash.png]] [[Fascism|Fascists]].

'''Alternate Modernism''' is a variant of modernism that supports [[File:PalUltranat.png]] National Paligenesis (national rebirth), [[File:Fut2.png]] technological [[Futurism]], emulation of ancient society and ideas, [[file:RevNat.png]] [[Revolutionary Nationalism]], [[File:Romanticism.png]] [[Counter-Enlightenment|Romanticism]] and idealism, extreme militarism and economic modernisation, with some variants including traditional institutions like an aristocracy and religious influence, be it [[File:Mythic.png]] mysticism or organised religions. This variation of progressive conservatism is most common to [[File:Fash.png]] [[Fascism]] and it's [[:Category:Fascists|adjacent-ideologies]] and [[File:Nrx.png]] [[Neoreactionaryism|Neo-Reactionary]] movements. [[File:ReactPix.png]] [[Reactionary Modernism]] is it's most far-right interpretation as it mostly rejects the enlightenment and is explicitly religious while supporting rapid technological advancement.

===[[File:Progconsoc.png]] Progressive Conservative Socialism [[File:ProgConSoc.png]]===

'''Progressive Conservative Socialism''' is the progressive conservative version of [[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism|socialism]]. It is culturally moderate and supports the idea of both [[File:Prog-u.png]] progressive and [[File:Conservative.png]] conservative elements in them that are needed for society to prosper. This cultural model can be seen with [[File:Soc21.png]] [[Socialism of the 21st Century|21st Century Socialism]].

*[[File:Hippie.png]] [[Left-Wing Populism|Hippieism]] - Respect for Tradition and Progress is based.

*[[File:Guildsoc.png]] [[Guild Socialism]] - Another socialist who wishes to mend modernity with tradition.

*[[File:RamaV.png]] [[Enlightened Absolutism|Chulalongkornism]] - Preserving traditions of absolute monarchy while opposing colonialism and slavery? Based af.

*[[File:StateOO.png]] [[State Oriental Orthodoxy]] - Normally I’m not the biggest fan of theocracies, however, I must say that I admire Ethiopia for remaining free from European powers.

* [[File:Capcom.png]] [[Capitalist Communism]] & [[File:Antot.png]] [[Anarcho-Totalitarianism]] - Fellow opposite ideologies. <s>But too far.</s>

*[[File:Enlightenment.png]] [[Enlightenment Thought]] - Don't get me wrong, most of your ideas are pretty good, but sometimes you went overboard in promoting reason over emotions. Not to mention the... less-than-enlightened attitude among some of your followers towards [[File:Native.png]] indigenous cultures.

*[[File:Fash.png]] [[Fascism]] - You're a hateful extremist but your concept of alternate modernity sounds pretty cool, would be great if you abandoned your hate to focus on it!

*[[File:Zio.png]] [[Zionism]] - You self-proclaim to have culturally left values, but you then end up promoting purely culturally right positions. Also, the killing of Palestinians is not a neutral cultural position.

*[[File:Plcn2.png]] [[Paleoconservatism]] - He keeps saying I'm not a "real" conservative, but Perot and Buchanan are good friends.

*[[File:Trad.png]] [[Traditionalism]] - You're pretty important in certain cases, but we definitely shouldn't have you around too much, otherwise we would just be excluding a lot of people for no good reason.

*[[File:Confem-alt.png]] [[Conservative Feminism]] - Potentially an ally, but most of you lean too heavily on straight cultural conservatism for my liking. And Jesus Christ some of you are just downright annoying.

*[[File:CountEn.png]] [[Counter-Enlightenment]] - The [[File:Romanticism.png]] Romanticists were somewhat agreeable, as they were opposed to an uncritical proliferation of Enlightenment at the expense of local traditions and customs as well as nature. But [[File:Hangman.png]] some of your variants are downright scary, I mean, why do you really need that torture chamber?

*[[File:Polpot.png]] [[Pol Potism]] - Wait, you want to have a revolution but return to Cambodian traditions of farming? Wouldn't be that bad if not for the killings I guess…

*[[File:Jihad.png]] [[Jihadism]] - [[File:MuslimReact.png]] Islamic version of the above.

===Comics/Artwork===

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