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    {{Ideology
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    |title = [[File:Anti-Natalism.png]] Antinatalism
    |image = Antinatal.png
    |caption = "I didn't consent to this"
    |aliases=
    |aliases = [[File:VHMent.png]] Voluntary Human Extinction<br>
    Misanthropic Pacifism (one of 2 main arguments)<br>
    LARPism (by most [[File:Envi.png]] [[:Category:Environmentalists|environmentalists]] and [[File:Leftunity.png]] [[LeftUnity|leftists]])<br>
    [[File:Anti-sex.png]] Antisexualism (some)<br>
    |alignments =
    [[File:VHMent.png]] Voluntary Human Extinction<br>
    {{Alias|ElonMusk.png|Capitalist Transhumanism|Mind Virus}}<ref>[https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1596428695090044928]</ref>
    |alignments=
    [[File:Nonquadrant.png|link=:Category:Non-Quadrant]] [[:Category:Non-Quadrant|{{Color|#FFFFFF|'''Non-Quadrant'''}}]]<br>
    [[File:Envi.png|link=:Category:Environmentalists]] [[:Category:Environmentalists|{{InfoColor|#1CB34B|'''Environmentalists'''}}]] (someSome)<br>
    [[File:World.png|link=:Category:Globalists]] [[:Category:Globalists|{{Color|#00ABF4|'''Globalists'''}}]] to {{Info|Internationalists}}<br>
    |influences =
    [[File:POSTHUMANISMICON.png|link=:Category:Post-Humanists]] [[:Category:Post-Humanists|{{Color|#00A0FF|'''Post-Humanists'''}}]] (some)
    [[File:Humanismpix.png]] [[Humanism]] (some) <br>
    |influences=
    [[File:Deontology.png]] [[mh:philosophyball:Kantianism|Deontology]] (some) <br>
    [[File:Humanismpix.png]] Humanism (Some)<br>
    |influenced =
    [[File:Deontology.png]] Deontology (Some)<br>
    |variants =
    *|influenced= [[File:VHMent.png]] '''[[Voluntary Human Extinction''' {{Collapse|]]
    |school =
    **[[File:Misanthropy.png]] [[mh:philosophyball:Misanthropy|Misanthropy]]
    |regional=
    **[[File:Pac.png]] [[mh:philosophyball:Pacifism|Pacifism]]
    **[[File:PhilanNihil.png]] [[Philosophical Anarchism]] (David'''Cioranism''' Benatar){{Collapse|
    **[[File:AntiAntiAbortionAgnostic.png]] Pro-Abortion{{PHB|Agnosticism}}
    **[[File:RadenvAnticap.png]] [[Radical Environmentalism]]{{PCBA|Anti-Capitalism}}
    *[[File:Anticommunism2.png]] {{PCBA|Anti-Communism}}
    *[[File:Anti_Constitutional.png]] Anti-Constitutionalism
    *[[File:AntiDem.png]] Anti-Democracy
    *[[File:AntiNation.png]] Anti-Nationalism (Later on)
    *[[File:Antirep.png]] Anti-Republicanism
    *[[File:Anti-Science.png]] Anti-Science
    *[[File:Anti-Romanian.png]] Cultural Self-Hatred (Later on)
    *[[File:Dostoevsky.png]] {{PHB|Dostoyevskianism}}
    *[[File:Existentialism.png]] {{PHB|Existentialism}}
    *[[File:Cball-France.png]] Francophilia
    *[[File:Fash.png]] [[Fascism]] (Disowned)
    *[[File:Hitler.png]] [[Nazism|Hitlerism]] (Disowned)
    *[[File:Humanismpix.png]] {{PHB|Humanism}}
    *[[File:Legion.png]] [[Legionarism]] (Disowned)
    *[[File:Orthlen.png]] [[Leninism]] (Disowned)
    *[[File:Nietzsche.png]] {{PHB|Nietzscheanism}}
    *[[File:Nihil.png]] {{PHB|Nihilism}}
    *[[File:Radape.png]] [[Radical Apoliticism]] (Later on)
    *[[File:ReactPix.png]] [[Reactionary Modernism]] (Formerly)
    *[[File:Schopenhauer.png]] {{PHB|Schopenhauerism}}
    }}
    [[File:Leopardi.png]] '''Leopardianism''' {{Collapse|
    |regional =
    *[[File:CoEAnti-Catholic.png]] '''Church of Euthanasia''' {{Collapse|Anti-Catholicism
    **[[File:CannibalismCapAnti LegalizationClerical.png]] Cannibalism{{PCBA|Anti-Clericalism}}
    **[[File:Anti-ChristianAnticon.png]] Christophobia{{PCBA|Anti-Conservatism}}
    **[[File:CultismAntimon.png]] [[Cultism]] Anti-Monarchism
    **[[File:OOTSAntiReact.png]] [[Death WorshipProgressivism|Anti-Reactionaryism]]
    **[[File:SexocracyArist.png]] {{PCBA|Sexocracy}}[[Aristocracy]]
    *[[File:Clib.png]] [[Classical Liberalism]]
    *[[File:Contrarianism-Icon.png]] [[Contrarianism]]
    *[[File:Cultural Nationalism.png]] [[Cultural Nationalism]]
    *[[File:Dem.png]] [[Democracy]]
    *[[File:Equality.png]] {{PHB|Egalitarianism}}
    *[[File:Enlightenment.png]] [[Enlightenment Thought]]
    *[[File:Cball-Italy.png]] [[Pan-Nationalism|Italian Nationalism]]
    *[[File:Materialism.png]] {{PHB|Materialism}}
    *[[File:Nihil.png]] {{PHB|Nihilism}}
    *[[File:Modnat.png]] [[Patriotism]]
    *[[File:Radlib.png]] [[Radicalism]]
    *[[File:Republicanismpix.png]] [[Republicanism]]
    *[[File:Romanticism.png]] [[Counter-Enlightenment|Romanticism]]
    }}
    [[File:Schopenhauer.png]] '''Schopenhauerism''' {{Collapse|
    |song =
    *[[File:Abolitionism.png]] [[Abolitionism]]
    |theorists =
    *[[File:Cball-England.png]] Anglophilia
    *[[File:Nihil.png]] [[mh:philosophyball:Nihilism|Emil Cioran]] (1911-1995), [[File:Cball-Romania.png]] Romania
    *[[File:AntiDem.png]] Anti-Democracy
    *[[File:VHMent.png]] [[mh:philosophyball:Veganism|Les U. Knight]] (1947-) [[File:Cball-US.png]] United States
    *[[File:AntiEquality.png]] Anti-Egalitarianism
    *[[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism|Thomas Ligotti]] (1953-), [[File:Cball-US.png]] United States
    *[[File:AntiFem.png]] Anti-Feminism (Allegedly)
    *[[File:VeganDeontology.png]] [[mh:philosophyball:Veganism|David Benatar]] (1966-), [[File:Cball-South_Africa.png]] South Africa
    *[[File:Antijuda.png]] Anti-Judaism
    *[[File:Enso_pixel.png]] [[Geosyndicalism|Enso Jin]] (2003-), [[File:Cball-US.png]] United States
    *[[File:Anti-Liberalism.png]] Anti-Liberalism
    |examples =
    *[[File:AntiNation.png]] Anti-Nationalism
    |likes =
    *[[File:Antiprog.png]] Anti-Progressivism
    Pacifism<br>
    *[[File:Antirep.png]] Anti-Republicanism
    *[[File:Apolit.png]] [[Apoliticism]]
    *[[File:Bud.png]] [[Buddhist Theocracy]]
    *[[File:Anti-Christian.png]] {{PCBA|Christophobia}} (Allegedly)
    *[[File:Envi.png]] [[Environmentalism]]
    *[[File:Eugen.png]] [[Eugenicism]] (Allegedly)
    *[[File:Hind.png]] [[Hindu Theocracy]]
    *[[File:Internation.png]] [[Internationalism]]
    *[[File:Kant.png]] {{PHB|Kantianism}}
    *[[File:Misogyny.png]] [[Manosphere|Misogyny]] (Accused)
    *[[File:Monarch.png]] [[Monarchism]]
    *[[File:Nooc.png]] [[Noocracy]]
    *[[File:Pat.png]] [[Patriarchy]]
    *[[File:Platon.png]] {{PHB|Platonism}}
    *[[File:React.png]] [[Reactionaryism]] (Allegedly)
    }}
    [[File:Lanza.png]] '''Lanzaism''' {{Collapse|
    *[[File:Thar.png]] [[Anti-Authoritarianism]]
    *[[File:Anticap.png]] {{PCBA|Anti-Capitalism}}
    *[[File:Anticiv.png]] Anti-Civilization
    *[[File:Atheism.png]] Atheism<ref>“Why do I oppose religion, as distinct from culture?
     
    It is cultural.
    It requires actions and encourages types of behavior which are based on delusions which don't have any
    basis in reality. Happiness is increased by rationally evaluating the world and modifying your behavior.
    The more delusional you are, the less you're able to be happy.
    It conflates morality with the religion.” Source: [https://schoolshooters.info/sites/default/files/me.pdf Me]</ref>
    *[[File:Anprim.png]] [[Anarcho-Primitivism]]
    *[[File:Colum.png]] [[Social Darwinism|Columbinism]]
    *[[File:Gamer.png]] {{PCBA|Gamerism}}
    *[[File:Isolationist.png]] [[Isolationism]] (In social)
    *[[File:Illeg.png]] [[Illegalism]]
    *[[File:Ted_Kaczynski.png]] [[Neoluddism|Kaczynskism]]
    *[[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]]
    *[[File:Misanthropy.png]] {{PCBA|Misanthropy}}
    *[[File:Mutualist.png]] [[Mutualism]]
    *[[File:Nihil.png]] {{PHB|Nihilism}}
    *[[File:Map.png]] Pedophilia (Debatable, sympathetic)<ref>[https://schoolshooters.info/sites/default/files/me.pdf Essay on Pedophilia]</ref>
    *[[File:Prim.png]] [[Primalism]]
    *[[File:Vegarch.png]] [[Total Liberationism|Veganarchism]]
    }}
    |song=
    |theorists=
    [[File:PanAmer.png]] '''Americas''' {{Collapse|
    *[[File:VHMent.png]] [[Voluntary Human Extinction|Les U. Knight]] (1947-) [[File:Cball-US.png]] {{PBW|USAball|USA}}
    *[[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism|Thomas Ligotti]] (1953-) [[File:Cball-US.png]] {{PBW|USAball|USA}}
    *[[File:Efilism.png]] [[Voluntary Human Extinction|Gary Inmendham]] (1960?-) [[File:Cball-US.png]] USA
    *[[File:Thar.png]] [[Anti-Authoritarianism|Bill Hicks]] (1961-1994) [[File:Cball-US.png]] {{PBW|USAball|USA}}
    *[[File:Radenv.png]] [[Radical Environmentalism|Amanda Sukenick]] (1983-) [[File:Cball-US.png]] USA
    *[[File:Lanza.png]] [[Anarcho-Primitivism|Adam Lanza]] (1992-2012) [[File:Cball-US.png]] {{PBW|USAball|USA}}
    }}
    [[File:Cball-EU.png]] '''Europe''' {{Collapse|
    *[[File:Schopenhauer.png]] [[Internationalism|Arthur Schopenhauer]] (1788-1860) [[File:Cball-Germany.png]] Germany
    *[[File:Leopardi.png]] [[Enlightenment Thought|Giacomo Leopardi]] (1798-1837) [[File:Cball-Italy.png]] Italy
    *[[File:Mainländer.png]] [[Left-Wing Nationalism|Philipp Mainländer]] (1841-1876) [[File:Cball-GermanEmpire.png]] Germany
    *[[File:ProtTheo.png]] [[Protestant Theocracy|Otto Weininger]] (1880-1903) [[File:Cball-Austria.png]] Austria
    *[[File:Thar.png]] [[Anti-Authoritarianism|Peter Wessel Zapffe]] (1899-1990) [[File:Cball-Norway.png]] Norway
    *[[File:Nihil.png]] [[Anti-Radicalism|Emil Cioran]] (1911-1995) [[File:Cball-Romania.png]] {{PBW|Romaniaball|Romania}}
    *[[File:PETA(Evil).png]] [[Radical Environmentalism|Ingrid Newkirk]] (1949-) [[File:Cball-UK.png]] United Kingdom
    *[[File:Republicanismpix.png]] [[Republicanism|Théophile de Giraud]] (1968-) [[File:Cball-Belgium.png]] Belgium
    }}
    [[File:Cball-AfricanUnion.png]] '''Africa''' {{Collapse|
    *[[File:DavidBenatar.png]] [[Men's Liberation|David Benatar]] (1966-) [[File:Cball-South_Africa.png]] {{PBW|South Africaball|South Africa}}
    }}
    |examples= [[File:VHMent.png]] [[Voluntary Human Extinction|Voluntary Human Extinction Movement]] <br>
    |likes=
    [[File:Pac.png]] Pacifism<br>
    Adoption<br>
    [[File:Altru.png]] Compassion<br>
    |dislikes =
    Procreation <br>
    [[File:Agress alt.png]] Agression and violence <br>
    }}
    {{Quote|
    quote="It has always seemed to me that my existence consisted purely and exclusively of nothing but the most outrageous nonsense."
    |speaker=[[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism|Thomas Ligotti]]
    }}
    '''Antinatalism''' is the ethical view that negatively values coming into existence and procreation, and judges procreation as morally wrong. Antinatalists argue that humans should abstain from procreation because it is morally wrong (some also recognize the procreation of other sentient beings as morally wrong).
     
    ==[[File:Humanismpix.png]] [[Humanism|Philanthropic Argument]]==
     
    The only certain way to protect your child is to not create it.
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    Because of that antinatalism is in favor of adoption, the only ethical way to become a parent. By adopting you can help improve the situation of an already existing being instead of creating a new being with the capability to suffer.
     
    ==[[File:Misanthropy.png]] [[mh:philosophyball:Misanthropy|Misanthropic Argument]]==
     
    <blockquote>According to this argument, humans are a deeply flawed and destructive species that is responsible for the suffering and deaths of billions of other humans and non-human animals. If that level of destruction were caused by another species we would rapidly recommend that new members of that species not be brought into existence.<ref>[http://www.thecritique.com/articles/we-are-creatures-that-should-not-exist-the-theory-of-anti-natalism/ "We Are Creatures That Should Not Exist": The Theory of Anti-Natalism], ''The Critique''.</ref></blockquote>
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    ==Variants==
    ===Schools of Thought===
     
    [[File:VHMent.png]] Voluntary Human Extinction is a movement that advocates the extinction of humanity through willingly restraining reproduction ([[File:Anti-Natalism.png]] [[Antinatalism]]) in an effort to make humanity extinct. Despite its goals, it rejects suicide, forced sterilization, or mass murder. They believe that humans have led to environmental degradation and therefore the entire human species must go extinct.
    ==How to Draw==
    WIP
     
    ==Relationships==
     
    ===Friends===
    *[[File:Humanismpix.png]] [[Humanism]] - Why bring more humans to the world if we can't even take care of the ones we already have.
    *[[File:Radenv.png]] [[Radical Environmentalism]] - There are too many humans and we're destroying the environment.
    *[[File:PolpotPOSTHUMANISMICON.png]] [[Pol PotismPost-Humanism]] - BashingWhat babiessense headsis tothere savein themadding fromnew sufferinghumans into the future.world Yeswhen absolutelymachines do.will replace their jobs? <s>Replace us ASAP!</s>
    *[[File:POSTHUMANISMICONAnpostleft.png]] [[Post-HumanismLeftism]] - What senseWork is theremeaningless, inand addingso newis humanseverything to the world when machines will replace their jobs?else.
    *[[File:Zeroac.png]] [[Zero Accelerationism]] - Humanity will be doomed by its own waste products.
     
    ===Frenemies===
    *[[File:AbortAnnil.png]] {{PCBA|Abortionism}}[[Anarcho-Nihilism]] - FetusesEven cannotif consentthere tois beingno aborted,meaning butin beinghuman bornexistence, isyou badshouldn't assentence well.people I'mto dividedlife onhere thisfor issue..that reason.
    *[[File:Totlib.png]] [[Total Liberationism]] - Really based, although you should understand that human extinction is the only way to achieve your goal.
    *[[File:Kak.png]] [[Kakistocracy]] and [[File:Radfem.png]] [[Radical Feminism]] - You are helping me achieve my goal, although you are too dumb.
    *[[File:Incel.png]] [[Manosphere]] - How about voluntary celibate? Also, you seem to hate me for some reason. MGTOWs however, are good because they want men to go single.
    *[[File:Cultism.png]] [[Cultism]] - The Church of Euthanasia has done a fantastic job in opposing human reproduction and even has led to humans deciding to relieve the Earth of their burden but the rest of these fuckers are almost always natalists!
    *[[File:Necro-ghost.png]] [[Necrocracy|Death]] - I like that you are dead. But stay DEAD !
    *[[File:Gay.png]] [[:Category:LGBT|LGBT]] - At least "most" of you don't reproduce.
    *[[File:Hfash.png]] [[Homofascism]] - I... Uh...
    *[[File:Strans.png]] [[Stransserism]] - Sure... but you're also batshit crazy.
    *[[File:Anpacf.png]] [[Anarcho-Pacifism]] - Pacifism is based, although you should believe in anti-natalism. Also, stop giving me that dirty look already.
    *[[File:JewTheo.png]] [[Jewish Theocracy]], [[File:Christy.png]] [[Christian Theocracy]] & [[File:Muslim_2.png]] [[Islamic Theocracy]] - Religious natalists are especially annoying, but some of your leaders didn't have children. Also, some of you recognise that it is better not to have children if they don't become believers before the end of the world.
     
    ===Enemies===
    *[[File:ElonMusk.png]] [[Capitalist Transhumanism|Muskism]] - Multi-billionaireOld money that only pushes for natalism cause hasn't ever experienced financial or emotional struggle because of his lucky upbringing. Most of the population isn't in the same situation.
    *[[File:Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism]] - Most of marxists are natalists, not to mention that Marx is a literal natalist.
    *[[File:Pat.png]] [[Patriarchy]] & [[File:Mat-0.png]] [[Matriarchy]] - Do I need to say more? <s>[[File:Incel.png]] [[Manosphere|Your]] [[Radical Feminism|variants]] [[File:Radfem.png]] are semi-based though.</s>
    *[[File:Conservative.png]] [[Conservatism]] - You are just another natalist who wants to increase the number of births.
    *[[File:Posadist.png]] [[Posadism]] - I said voluntary, not involuntary human extinction! Go f*ck yourself with your neutron warheads.
    *[[File:Eugen.png]] [[Eugenicism]] - There is no "superior" ethnicity. Not like I care about it anyway.
    *[[File:Esofash.png]] [[Esoteric Fascism]] - Your Lebensborn project is especially disgusting.
    *[[File:Cball-SRRomania.png]] [[National Communism|Ceaușescuism]] - My worst nightmare. At least you were executed.
    *[[File:Darwinist.png]] [[Social Darwinism]] - You are causing suffering. You must die first.
    *[[File:Statlib.png]] [[State Liberalism]] - Forced transgenderism is not good at all, and also you're anti-environmentalist.
    * [[File:Lpop.png]] [[Left-Wing Populism]] - About the ballad of the survivalist worms *rolls eyes up*
    *[[File:Ford.png]] [[Fordism]] - Ewww ! I don't want your artificial reproduction just die die die ! may you find the st*bility you seek there in hell
    *[[File:Krater.png]] [[Kraterocracy]] - NO.
     
    ==Further Information==
    ===Literature===
    *[[File:CATHR.png]] [https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/566816/the-conspiracy-against-the-human-race-by-thomas-ligotti The Conspiracy Against the Human Race] by [[WFile:ThomasSoc-h.png]] Ligotti[[Socialism|Thomas Ligotti]]
     
    ===Videos===
    *[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvCgwZMDWhY Being Alive is Good, Actually] by [[File:GeorgistBritMonkey.png]] [[Georgism|BritMonkey]]
    *[https://youtu.be/ZUCenKvOzhI?t=72 Antinatalism | Is Life Worth Beginning?] with Cosmic Skeptic and Humane Hancock
    *[https://youtu.be/6O5S2Y4FhJ0 Voluntary Extinction] by Solar Sands
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    ===Wikipedia===
    *[[w:Antinatalism|Antinatalism]]
    *[[w:Voluntary_Human_Extinction_Movement|Voluntary Human Extinction Movement]]
    ====People====
    *[[w:Al-Ma'arri|Al-Ma'arri]]
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    *[https://www.reddit.com/r/FeministAntinatalism/ r/FeministAntinatalism]
    *[https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleAntinatalism/ r/FemaleAntinatalism]
    *[https://www.vhemt.org/ VHEMT]
     
    ==References==
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    [[Category:Post-Humanists]]
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