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|title=[[File:Reactsoc.png]] '''Reactionary Socialism''' [[File:Reactionary Socialism.png]]

[[File:Arisoc.png]] Aristocratic Socialism<br>

[[File:Ultrasoc.png]] Ultrasocialism-Ultraconservatism Synthesis [[File:Ultracon.png]]<br>

Noblesse oblige<br>

[[File:Romanticism.png]] [[Counter-Enlightenment|Romanticism]] (Most)<br>

[[File:Ormarxf.png]] Marxism (Except for [[File:Ultrasoc.png]] ultrasocialism)<br>

[[File:JewTheo.png]][[File:Muslim.png]][[File:PagTheo.png]] Non-Christian religions [[File:Sikhmini.png]][[File:Bud.png]]<br>

[[File:AntiLibIcon.png]] {{PCBA|Anti-Liberalism}}<br>

[[File:Heart-Integralism.png]] [[Integralism]] (Most)<br>

*[[File:AntiNazism.png]] [[Anti-Fascism|Anti-Nazism]]

*[[File:Arisoc.png]] [[Aristocracy]]

*[[File:LeftInt.png]] [[Integralism|Left Integralism]] (Some)

*[[File:Nietzsche.png]] {{PHB|Nietzscheanism}}

*[[File:SocialistCorporatism.png]] [[Socialism|Petty-Bourgeois Socialism]] (some)

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[[File:FeudSoc.png]] '''Social Feudalism''' {{Collapse|

*[[File:Agsoc.png]] [[Agrarian Socialism]]

*[[File:Rightanticap.png]] {{PCBA|Anti-Capitalism}}

*[[File:Arisoc.png]] [[Aristocracy]]

*[[File:Feud.png]] [[Feudalism]]

*[[File:Relsoc.png]] [[Religious Socialism]]

*[[File:Monsoc.png]] [[Monarcho-Socialism]] (Self proclaimed)

*[[File:Mondistli.png]] [[Monarcho-Distributism]]

*'''Factions'''

**[[File:YoungEngland.png]] [[One-Nation Conservatism|Young England]]

**[[File:Metternich.png]] [[Classical Conservatism|Metternichism]]

[[File:YoungEngland.png]] '''Young England''' {{Collapse|

*[[File:Abmon.png]] [[Absolute Monarchism]]

*[[File:Agsoc.png]] [[Agrarian Socialism]]

*[[File:Anglican Theocracyf.png]] [[Protestant Theocracy|Anglican Theocracy]]

*[[File:CapAnti_Clerical.png]] [[Secularism|Anti-Clericalism]]

*[[File:AntiDem.png]] Anti-Democracy

*[[File:AntiIndiv.png]] Anti-Individualism

*[[File:Anti-radlib.png]] Anti-Radicalism

*[[File:AntiModern.png]] Anti-Rationalism

*[[File:AntiUtility.png]] Anti-Utilitarianism

*[[File:Arisoc.png]] [[Aristocracy]]

*[[File:Tradcon.png]] [[Classical Conservatism]]

*[[File:Feud.png]] [[Feudalism]]

*[[File:Ludd.png]] [[Luddism]]

*[[File:Monsoc.png]] [[Monarcho-Socialism]]

*[[File:Reactcross.png]] [[Reactionaryism]]

*[[File:Romanticism.png]] [[Counter-Enlightenment|Romanticism]]

*[[File:Red Tory.png]] [[One-Nation Conservatism|Social Toryism]]

*[[File:Utsoc.png]] [[Utopian Socialism]]

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[[File:Bonaldianism.png]] '''Bonaldianism''' {{Collapse|

*[[File:Abmon.png]] [[Absolute Monarchism]]

*[[File:Farm.png]] [[Agrarianism]]

*[[File:Anticap.png]] {{PCBA|Anti-Capitalism}}

*[[File:AntiDem.png]] Anti-Democracy

*[[File:AntiLibIcon.png]] Anti-Liberalism

*[[File:Anti-Semitic.png]] Anti-Semitism

*[[File:Arisoc.png]] [[Aristocracy]]

*[[File:Catheo.png]] [[Catholic Theocracy]]

*[[File:Tradcon.png]] [[Classical Conservatism]]

*[[File:CountEn.png]] [[Counter-Enlightenment]]

*[[File:Guildsoc.png]] [[Guild Socialism]]<ref>De Bonald worked to reverse the Le Chapelier Law, which forbade workers the right to form workers' associations and prohibited strike actions, and reintroduce guilds, but his efforts were unsuccessful.</ref>

*[[File:Heart-Integralism.png]] [[Integralism]]

*[[File:Ludd.png]] [[Luddism]]

*[[File:Mat.png]] [[Maternalism]]

*[[File:Reactcross.png]] [[Reactionaryism]]

*[[File:SocialistCorporatism.png]] [[Socialism|Petty-Bourgeois Socialism]]

*[[File:Tradsoc.png]] [[Traditionalism]]

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*[[File:Statesoc.png]] [[State Socialism]]

*[[File:WhiteCommie.png]] [[White Nationalism|White Leftism]]

[[File:LeftNeoreact.png]] '''Katasonovism'''{{Collapse|

[[File:Metternich.png]] '''Metternichism''' {{Collapse|

*[[File:Anti-Liberalism.png]] Anti-Liberalism

*[[File:AntiNation.png]] Anti-Nationalism

*[[File:Arisoc.png]] [[Aristocracy]]

*[[File:Tradcon.png]] [[Classical Conservatism]]

*[[File:Confed.png]] [[Confederalism]]

*[[File:Consocf.png]] [[Conservative Socialism]]

*[[File:Cosmo.png]] [[Cosmopolitanism]]

*[[File:Monsoc.png]] [[Monarcho-Socialism]]

*[[File:Patern.png]] [[Paternalism]]

*[[File:Reactcross.png]] [[Reactionaryism]]

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[[File:Ruskin icon.png]] '''Ruskinism'''{{Collapse|

*[[File:Ludd.png]] [[Luddism]]

[[File:Disraeli.png]] [[One-Nation Conservatism|Disraelism]] ([[File:YoungEngland.png]] Young England)<br>

[[File:OttoStrasser.png]] [[Strasserism|Ottonian Strasserism]]<br>

[[File:WangMang.png]] [[Monarcho-Socialism|Wang Mang Thought]]<br>

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9iMaaqZQDc Boulgaroktonos - Epic Byzantine Music]<br>

*[[File:Ruskin_icon.png]] [[Conservative Socialism|John Ruskin]] (1819-1900) [[File:Cball-UK.png]] UK

*[[File:Bulgaroktonos.png]] [[Byzantine Model|Basil II]] (958-1025) [[File:Cball-Byzantine.png]] Byzantine Empire

*[[File:Bonaldianism.png]] [[Catholic Theocracy|Louis de Bonald]] (1754-1840) [[File:Cball-France.png]] {{PBW|Franceball|France}}

*[[File:Feder.png]] [[Nazism|Gottfried Feder]] (1883-1941) [[File:Cball-Germany.png]] {{PBW|Germanyball|Germany}}

*[[File:Yemelyanov.png]] [[Esoteric Fascism|Valery Yemelyanov]] (1929-1999) [[File:Cball-Russia.png]] {{PBW|Russiaball|Russia}}

*[[File:LeftNeoreact.png]] [[Fourth Theory|Valentin Katasonov]] (1950-) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] Soviet Union / [[File:Cball-Russia.png]] {{PBW|Russiaball|Russia}}

[[File:PanAsian.png]] '''Asia''' {{Collapse|

*[[File:WangMang.png]] [[Monarcho-Socialism|Wang Mang]] (45 BC - 23) [[File:Cball-China.png]] Imperial {{PBW|Chinaball|China}}

*[[File:SalothSar.png]] [[Pol Potism|Pol Pot]] (1925-1998) [[File:Cball-Cambodia.png]] Cambodia

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'''Reactionary Socialism''' is a [[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism|leftist]], [[File:Reactcross.png]] [[Reactionaryism|reactionary]] ideology that resides in the upper left half of the political compass. It is very close to [[File:Christsoc.png]] [[Christian Socialism]], [[File:Guildsoc.png]] [[Guild Socialism]], and [[File:Mondistli.png]] [[Monarcho-Distributism]] in policy, but is radically more traditionalist. Generally very decentralist.

===[[File:FeudSoc.png]] '''Social Feudalism'''===

'''Social Feudalism''' is what occurs to the landed aristocracy after capitalism takes root in a country and gradually usurps power away from the gentry and gives it to the bourgeoise. The aristocrats notice this happening of course so they attempt to stop capitalism from growing through protective trade laws, beneficial tax laws and opposing democratic reforms. However when these fail to stop capitalism from supplanting aristocrats many turn to a new solution of masking as the workers' champions who stand up to the exploitative capitalists, many claim that under feudalism serfs were well-off due to their Lords' honour and noble hearts. While forgetting all the oppression that they made workers endure for millennia. The two most succesful forms of feudal socialism are Metternich as he ruled over Europe from the end of the Napoleonic wars to the European Spring. The second is Young England in the UK who managed to get their president, at a time, Benjamin Disraeli elected Prime Minister who then created one-nation conservatism which has remained a force in British politics to the modern day.

=== [[File:Revolutionary_Conservatism.png|link=https://philosophyball.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Revolutionary_Conservatism.png]] Conservative Revolution ===

'''Conservative Revolution''' is a movement in Germany and Austria between World War I and the rise of the Nazis. Its members wanted to change society, but they disagreed on how. They rejected egalitarianism, Liberal democracy, and modern culture, with some rejecting Christianity. Instead, they admired ideas from the past, like Friedrich Nietzsche's views, German Romanticism, and Prussian nationalism. They also drew from their experiences in World War I.

Their connection to [[File:Nazi.png]] [[Nazism]] was complex. Some saw them as a step towards [[File:Fash.png]] [[Fascism|fascism]], but they were not the same. They didn't all believe in Nazi ideas about race. While they helped pave the way for the Nazis, they didn't have much influence on them. When the Nazis took over, most Conservative Revolutionaries were either killed or rejected the Nazi regime.

Later, their ideas influenced movements like the European New Right, which includes groups like the French Nouvelle Droite and German Neue Rechte. These ideas are still influential today, shaping movements like the European Identitarian movement.

==== New Nationalism and Morality ====

Conservative Revolutionaries believed their nationalism differed significantly from previous forms of German nationalism and conservatism. They criticized traditional Wilhelmine conservatives for being reactionary and failing to grasp modern concepts like technology, urbanization, and the working class.

Moeller van den Bruck described Conservative Revolution as preserving values inseparable from the Volk (ethnic group), which endure through time due to adaptations in their institutional and ideal forms. Unlike pure reactionaries or revolutionaries, Conservative Revolutionaries aimed to shape eternal values to ensure their survival amid historical changes. Edgar Jung rejected the notion that true conservatives aimed to halt progress. They sought a chivalric way of life guided by innate morality rather than a conscious moral code. Conservative revolutionaries aimed to restore natural laws and values within the modern world.

Influenced by Nietzsche, many rejected Christian ethics of solidarity and equality, viewing them as oppressive to the strong. They advocated for nations to prioritize self-interest over moral standards in geopolitics. Völkischen, influenced by racialist and occultist beliefs, opposed Christianity and sought a return to Germanic pagan faith or the adaptation of Christianity to remove foreign influences.

==== Volksgemeinschaft and Dictatorship ====

Thomas Mann believed that German resistance during World War I was stronger militarily than spiritually because the German essence couldn't easily express itself verbally, making it difficult to counter Western rhetoric effectively. He argued that German culture was deeply rooted in the soul and thus authoritarian rule was natural for Germans, as politics and democracy were seen as foreign to their spirit. Mann's ideas influenced Conservative Revolutionaries, although he later defended the Weimar Republic and criticized figures associated with the movement.

Carl Schmitt, in his essay "The Dictatorship," praised the power given to the president in the Weimar Republic to declare a state of emergency, which he saw as essential for effective governance. He argued that in a democratic state, any deviation from democratic principles could be considered dictatorship. Schmitt further proposed that sovereignty necessitated the ability to declare a state of emergency, allowing for swift decisions outside of parliamentary procedures. He later used this argument to justify Hitler's actions during the Night of the Long Knives, stating, "The leader defends the law."

==== Front-Line Socialism ====

Conservative Revolutionaries rejected the idea of being driven by class struggle resentment and instead looked to the camaraderie of World War I for inspiration, envisioning a national community beyond traditional political divides. They aimed to redefine revolution, associating it with the unity of the war's beginning rather than the turmoil of November 1918.

They agreed with socialists on curtailing capitalism's excesses, advocating for corporatism and closer collaboration between workers and employers. Their critique of capitalism stemmed from its wartime profits, inflation, and their own middle-class background, feeling squeezed between ruling capitalists and the masses.

While they dismissed communism as idealistic, they borrowed Marxist terminology, such as the inevitability of conservatism replacing liberalism, reflecting a historical materialist view. Influenced by vitalism and irrationalism, they believed in life's dominance over reason, contrasting with Marxist optimism. Some, like Ernst Niekisch, advocated National Bolshevism, blending ultra-nationalist socialism with anti-Western sentiments, even willing to align with German communists and the Soviet Union to combat the capitalist West.

===[[File:YoungEngland.png]] Young England===

Young England was a Victorian era political group with a political message based on an idealised feudalism: an absolute monarch and a strong Established Church, with the philanthropy of noblesse oblige as the basis for its paternalistic form of social organisation.

*[[File:Mondistli.png]] [[Monarcho-Distributism]] - The best system for ruling the realm.

*[[File:Imp.png]] [[Imperialism]] - Unlike most other socialists, I see nothing wrong with you.

*[[File:Mladorossi.png]] [[Mladorossism]] - Tsarism and socialism? I love thou.

*[[File:Monsoc.png]] [[Monarcho-Socialism]] - Same as above but more straightforward.

*[[File:Cball-Byzantine.png]] [[Byzantine Model]] - Long live the blessed Bulgaroktonos!!

*[[File:Consocf.png]] [[Conservative Socialism]] - Blessed! Many of my variants are literally you!

*[[File:CountEn.png]] [[Counter-Enlightenment]] - Thy ideas are very good, and [[File:Romanticism.png]] romanticism is even better.

*[[File:Guildsoc.png]] [[Guild Socialism]] - Thou also appreciates romanticism like the above, and many of my followers were admirers of the guild system.

*[[File:Disraeli.png]] [[One-Nation Conservatism|Disraelism]] - I have taught thou well, Disraeli.

*[[File:Polpot.png]] [[Pol Potism]] - This man gets me. Well, sort of. We can never agree about monarchial rule. <s>He's too insane even for me</s>

*[[File:Feud.png]] [[Feudalism]] - Social feudalism sounds blessed, but nowadays I am more focused on maintaining sacred traditionalist values than returning to feudalism.

*[[File:Neolud.png]] [[Neoluddism]] - Hey, we both want to get rid of industry, we should get together more often. <s>But Katasonov is pro-industrialism.</s>

*[[File:Dengf.png]] [[Dengism]] - WTF?! At least [[File:ML.png]] [[Marxism-Leninism|these]] [[Maoism|two]] [[File:Mao.png]] are socialists. <s>But you at least think that Confucius' "Great Harmony Society" and Marxism are the same. Also, same thing with Katasonov.</s>

*[[File:Mansphere.png]] [[Manosphere]] - Sexual Marxism sounds interesting... but none of my followers are quite prepared to adopt your views all at once.

*[[File:Strasser.png]] [[Strasserism]] - Socialist and traditionalist just like me. However, many of my variants aren’t ok with your anti-semitism so maybe tone it down??

*[[File:Nazbol.png]] [[National Bolshevism]] - Thou hath some good ideas but thou want central control rather than feudal delegation. <s>Nationalism is a product of the enlightenment</s>

*[[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism]] - Socialism is my ideological end goal. However, Metternich suppressing the 1848 revolutions is an obvious exception.

*[[File:Reactlib.png]] [[Reactionary Liberalism]] - Blessed but champions the very economic system responsible for bringing the things into the world that we oppose. Maybe he'll see that socialism is the key to what he wants.

*[[File:ML.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism]] - Most of thy adherents are queerly progressives who think feudalism and monarchism are bad! <s>Ignore our weird [[File:Yemelyanov.png]] [[Esoteric Fascism|child]].</s>

*[[File:Mao.png]] [[Maoism]] - Wait, there's more of them? <s>Why do the right-wing tridemists accuse you of being me?</s>

*[[File:Radlib.png]] [[Radicalism]] - Thou promotes too much change all at once. I think it better if I stay in charge. <s>Sstay back you filthy peasants!</s>

*[[File:Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism]] - Leave it to a heathen to come up with a form of socialism that they pervert into something awful. <s>Ultrasocialism is blessed but still.</s>

*[[File:LeftCom.png]] [[Italian Left Communism]] - Lazy fool thou art. <s>We both share a hatred for democracy, nationalism, and liberalism, though.</s>

*[[File:Odal.png]] [[Odalism]] - Interesting guy, basically me if I were an anprim. Hath got a lot of good ideas but doesn't understand that the feudal age was our high point and the Age of Discovery proves that. <s> Wait, thou art a disgusting pagan? Also Katasonov hates nearly every part of your ideology.</s>

*[[File:NeoEnl.png]] [[Neo-Enlightenment]] - Damn degenerate, I am glad, that you are dead. <s>Were you ever alive though, or you were a corpse, fueled by avarice and unholy liquids?</s>

*[[File:StateathFedora.png]] [[State Atheism]] - No, I am not going to burn thee at the stake. I hath special plans for heretics like thou.

*[[File:Muslim 2.png]] [[Islamic Theocracy]] - I'm sorry, but anyone who ever learned how to fix a bathroom from a Muslim should call himself a barbarian. <s>At least we both hate usury and Katasonov seems to admire islamic capitalism</s>

====People====

*[[File:Metternich.png]] [[w:Klemens von Metternich|Klemens von Metternich]]

*[[File:Bonaldianism.png]] [[w:Louis de Bonald|Louis de Bonald]]

*[[File:Fitzhugh.png]] [[w:George Fitzhugh|George Fitzhugh]]