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    |caption="Socialism '''IS''' when the government does stuff!"
    |caption="Socialism '''IS''' when the government does stuff!"
    |aliases={{Collapse|
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    [[File:AuthSoc.png]] {{PCBA|Authoritarian Socialism}}<br>
    [[File:AuthSoc.png]] {{PCBA|Authoritarian Socialism}}<br>
    [[File:LeftAutho.png]] Left-Authoritarianism<br>
    [[File:LeftAutho.png]] Left-Authoritarianism<br>
    [[File:Authequality.png]] Authoritarian Egalitarianism<br>
    [[File:SocAbove.png]] Socialism from above<br>
    [[File:SocAbove.png]] Socialism from above<br>
    ML praxis<br>
    ML praxis<br>
    [[File:Paternalistic Socialism.png]] Paternalistic Socialism<br>
    Red dictator<br>
    Bureaucratic Socialism (most)<br>
    [[File:TankieDictature.png]] Red dictator [[File:RedTerror.png]]<br>
    Gorengism (In The Platform)<br>
    {{Alias|Libmarx.png|Libertarian Socialism|Servile belief in the state}}<br>
    {{Alias|Libmarx.png|Libertarian Socialism|Servile belief in the state}}<br>
    {{Alias|Libleft.png|:Category:Libertarian Left|[[File:Statecap.png]] [[State Capitalism]]}}<br>
    {{Alias|Libleft.png|:Category:Libertarian Left|[[File:Statecap.png]] [[State Capitalism]]}}<br>
    {{Alias|Libertarian.png|Libertarianism|Literally [[File:Sanders.png]] [[Left-Wing Populism|Bernie Sanders!]]}}<br>
    {{Alias|Libertarian.png|Libertarianism|When the government does stuff}}<br>
    {{Alias|Thatcher.png|Neoliberalism|Literally [[File:ClementAttlee.png]] [[Democratic Socialism|Clement Attlee!]]}}<br>
    {{Alias|Thatcher.png|Neoliberalism|Literally [[File:ClementAttlee.png]] [[Social Democracy|Clement Attlee!]]}}<br>
    {{Alias|Sorel.png|Syndicalism|[[File:ClassDistr.png]] The Ideal of the Petit Bourgeoisie}}<br>
    {{Alias|Sorel.png|Syndicalism|[[File:ClassDistr.png]] The Ideal of the Petit Bourgeoisie}}<br>
    <s>The government doing stuff</s>
    }}
    }}
    |alignments=
    |alignments=
    {{Info|Authoritarian Left|AuthLeft}}<br>
    {{Info|Authoritarian Left|AuthLeft}}<br>
    {{Info|Socialists}} <br>[[File:QuasiCommie.png|link=Quasi-Communism (Disambiguation)]] [[:Quasi-Communism (Disambiguation)|{{Color|#8B0000|'''Quasi-Communists'''}}]] <br>
    {{Info|Socialists}}
    |influences=
    |influences=
    [[File:Sec.png]] [[Authoritarianism]]<br>
    [[File:Sec.png]] [[Authoritarianism]]<br>
    [[File:Leftstatist.png]] {{PCBA|Statism|Left-Statism}}<br>
    [[File:Paternalism.png]] [[Paternalism]]<br>
    [[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism]]<br>
    [[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism]]<br>
    [[File:Statist.png]] {{PCBA|Statism}}
    |influenced={{ScrollBox|
    |influenced={{ScrollBox|
    [[File:IsaiasAfwerki-PFDJ.png]] [[Totalitarianism|Afwerkism]]<br>
    [[File:IsaiasAfwerki-PFDJ.png]] [[Totalitarianism|Afwerkism]]<br>
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    [[File:Utopianism2.png]] [[Utopian Socialism|Utopianism]]<br>
    [[File:Utopianism2.png]] [[Utopian Socialism|Utopianism]]<br>
    }}
    }}
    |school =
    |theorists=
    |theorists=
    [[File:PanAmer.png]] '''Americas''' {{Collapse|
    [[File:PanAmer.png]] '''Americas''' {{Collapse|
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    *[[File:JosephStalin.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Joseph Stalin]] (1878-1953) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
    *[[File:JosephStalin.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Joseph Stalin]] (1878-1953) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
    *[[File:Lev_Davidovich_Bronstein.png]] [[Trotskyism|Leon Trotsky]] (1879-1940) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
    *[[File:Lev_Davidovich_Bronstein.png]] [[Trotskyism|Leon Trotsky]] (1879-1940) [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] USSR
    *[[File:Dimitrov.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Georgi Dimitrov]] (1882-1949) [[File:Cball-PRBulgaria.png]] Bulgaria
    *[[File:Dimitrov.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Georgi Dimitrov]] (1882-1949) [[File:Cball-PRBulgaria.png]] {{PBW|Bulgariaball|Bulgaria}}
    *[[File:Bierut.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Boleslaw Bierut]] (1892-1956) [[File:Cball-PRPoland.png]] PR {{PBW|Polandball|Poland}}
    *[[File:Bierut.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Boleslaw Bierut]] (1892-1956) [[File:Cball-PRPoland.png]] PR {{PBW|Polandball|Poland}}
    *[[File:Rákosi.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Mátyás Rákosi]] (1892-1971) [[File:Cball-PRHungary.png]] {{PBW|Hungaryball|Hungary}}
    *[[File:Rákosi.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Mátyás Rákosi]] (1892-1971) [[File:Cball-PRHungary.png]] {{PBW|Hungaryball|Hungary}}
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    }}
    |examples=
    |examples=
    [[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism|Paris Commune]] (1871, allegedly)<br>
    *[[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism|Paris Commune]] (1871, allegedly)
    [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Union of Soviet Socialist Republics]] (1922-1985)<br>
    *[[File:Cball-USSR.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Union of Soviet Socialist Republics]] (1922-1985)
    [[File:Cball-PSRAlbania.png]] [[Hoxhaism|People's Socialist Republic of Albania]] (1945-1985)<br>
    *[[File:Cball-PSRAlbania.png]] [[Hoxhaism|People's Socialist Republic of Albania]] (1945-1985)
    [[File:Cball-North_Korea.png]] [[Juche|Democratic People's Republic of Korea]] (1948-1994)<br>
    *[[File:Cball-North_Korea.png]] [[Juche|Democratic People's Republic of Korea]] (1948-)
    [[File:Cball-China.png]] [[Maoism|People's Republic of China]] (1949-1981)<br>[[File:Cball-Egypt.png]] [[Arab Socialism|Republic of Egypt]] (1956-1970)<br>[[File:Cball-Algeria.png]] [[Arab Socialism|People's Democratic Republic of Algeria]] (1965-1978)
    *[[File:Cball-China.png]] [[Maoism|People's Republic of China]] (1949-1981)
    *[[File:Cball-Egypt.png]] [[Arab Socialism|Republic of Egypt]] (1956-1970)
    *[[File:Cball-Algeria.png]] [[Arab Socialism|People's Democratic Republic of Algeria]] (1965-1978)
    |likes=
    |likes=
    [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] The Soviet Union<br>
    [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] The Soviet Union<br>
    [[File:Cball-North_Korea.png]] North Korea<br>
    [[File:Cball-North_Korea.png]] North Korea<br>
    [[File:Cball-China.png]] China<br>
    [[File:Cball-China.png]] China (before Deng)<br>
    [[File:Cball-Egypt.png]] Nasserist Egypt<br>
    [[File:Cball-Egypt.png]] Nasserist Egypt<br>
    [[File:InfRevolutionaryism.png]] Revolution<br>
    [[File:InfRevolutionaryism.png]] Revolution<br>
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    State Socialism arguably first was implemented in 1871 when the [[File:Soc-h.png]] Paris Commune came around as a 'state'. But this is up for debate as the [[File:Soc-h.png]] Paris Commune acted more like [[File:Libsoc.png]] [[Libertarian Socialism]] and sometimes even [[File:Ancom.png]] [[Anarcho-Communism]], and didn't really function as a state nor was recognized as such.
    State Socialism arguably first was implemented in 1871 when the [[File:Soc-h.png]] Paris Commune came around as a 'state'. But this is up for debate as the [[File:Soc-h.png]] Paris Commune acted more like [[File:Libsoc.png]] [[Libertarian Socialism]] and sometimes even [[File:Ancom.png]] [[Anarcho-Communism]], and didn't really function as a state nor was recognized as such.


    The real start of State Socialism was in 1917 when the [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] Bolsheviks, led by [[File:Orthlen.png]] [[Leninism|Vladimir Lenin]], overthrew the [[File:Cball-Russia.png]] Russian Republic and established the [[File:Orthlen.png]] Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (RSFSR). In 1922, this became the [[File:ML.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Union of Soviet Socialist Republics]] (USSR). The [[File:ML.png]] USSR changed to become even more State Socialist after [[File:Stalin.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Stalin]] took over in 1925 and combined it with [[File:PolState.png]] [[Police Statism]] and [[File:Sec.png]] [[Authoritarianism]]. A lot of this was ruled back during the [[File:Khrusch.png]] [[Khrushchevism|Khrushchevist]] and, especially, [[File:Gorb.png]] [[Liberal Socialism|Gorbachevist]] eras of the [[File:ML.png]] USSR.
    The real start of State Socialism was in 1917 when the [[File:Cball-USSR.png]] Bolsheviks, led by [[File:Orthlen.png]] [[Leninism|Vladimir Lenin]], overthrew the [[File:Cball-Russia.png]] Russian Republic and established the [[File:Orthlen.png]] Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (RSFSR). In 1922, this became the [[File:ML.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Union of Soviet Socialist Republics]] (USSR). The [[File:ML.png]] USSR changed to become even more State Socialist after [[File:Stalin.png]] [[Marxism–Leninism|Stalin]] took over in 1925 and combined it with [[File:PolState.png]] [[Police Statism]] and [[File:Sec.png]] [[Authoritarianism]]. A lot of elements of the planned economy was rolled back during the [[File:Gorb.png]] [[Liberal Socialism|Perestroika]] era of the [[File:ML.png]] USSR.


    [[File:Cball-China.png]] China, officially the Peoples' Republic of China (PRC), was ruled under a State Socialist regime called [[File:Mao.png]] [[Maoism]] from 1954-1981.
    [[File:Cball-China.png]] China, officially the Peoples' Republic of China (PRC), was ruled under a State Socialist regime called [[File:Mao.png]] [[Maoism]] from 1954-1981.
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    *[[File:Minsocf.png]] [[Minarcho-Socialism]] - Socialism '''is''' when the government does stuff! Even they agree!
    *[[File:Minsocf.png]] [[Minarcho-Socialism]] - Socialism '''is''' when the government does stuff! Even they agree!
    *[[File:Monsoc.png]] [[Monarcho-Socialism]] - Almost great, but what's that about monarchism?
    *[[File:Monsoc.png]] [[Monarcho-Socialism]] - Almost great, but what's that about monarchism?
    *[[File:Statecap.png]] [[State Capitalism]] - WE ARE NOT THE SAME!! Still love you, brother, even when you confuse me.
    *[[File:Statecap.png]] [[State Capitalism]] - WE ARE NOT THE SAME!! Still love you even when we don't have the same goals.
    *[[File:Dengf.png]] [[Dengism]] - Same as above. Mao was still better than you.
    *[[File:Fabian.png]] [[Fabian Socialism]] - I love you son, but you scare me.
    *[[File:Fabian.png]] [[Fabian Socialism]] - I love you son, but you scare me.
    *[[File:Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism]] - Realizes that socialism needs the state in order to be achieved. But why do you wanna get rid of it afterwards? Your [[File:ML.png]] son is way cooler anyway.
    *[[File:Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism]] - Realizes that socialism needs the state in order to be achieved. But why do you wanna get rid of it afterwards? Your [[File:ML.png]] son is way cooler anyway.
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    *[[File:Ancom.png]] [[Anarcho-Communism]] - HAHAHA, you want to abolish the transition state that quickly? Good luck when foreign forces and infighting destroy your socialist utopia!! <s>At least we both hate [[File:Markets.png]] markets.</s>
    *[[File:Ancom.png]] [[Anarcho-Communism]] - HAHAHA, you want to abolish the transition state that quickly? Good luck when foreign forces and infighting destroy your socialist utopia!! <s>At least we both hate [[File:Markets.png]] markets.</s>
    *[[File:Socauth.png]] [[Social Authoritarianism]] - On one hand, we both like Nasser and Velasco. On the other hand, Thaksin is a filthy authcap, and Alia ended Hoxhaism.
    *[[File:Socauth.png]] [[Social Authoritarianism]] - On one hand, we both like Nasser and Velasco. On the other hand, Thaksin is a filthy authcap, and Alia ended Hoxhaism.
    *[[File:Fash.png]] [[Fascism]] - Filthy f*shie, go cry in a corner. <s>Although you used to be one of me</s>

    ===Enemies===
    ===Enemies===
    *[[File:Cap.png]] [[Capitalism]] - Free market? The only thing it gives is the freedom to oppress workers.
    *[[File:Cap.png]] [[Capitalism]] - Free market? The only thing it gives is the freedom to oppress workers.
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    *[[File:Statlib.png]] [[State Liberalism]] - And no, I don't care about pink paint.
    *[[File:Statlib.png]] [[State Liberalism]] - And no, I don't care about pink paint.
    *[[File:Bism.png]] [[Bismarckism]] - Why must you use my name like this?
    *[[File:Bism.png]] [[Bismarckism]] - Why must you use my name like this?
    *[[File:Ingsocf.png]] [[Ingsoc]] - You take things too far. We are not the same.
    *[[File:Fash.png]] [[Fascism]] - Filthy f*shie, go cry in a corner. <s>Although you used to be one of me</s>
    *[[File:Ingsocf.png]] [[Ingsoc]] - We are not the same. And you are not even a [[File:Soc-h.png]] [[Socialism|Socialist]], just an economically apathetic and generically statist [[file:Caste.png]] casteist.
    *[[File:Libertarian.png]] [[Libertarianism]] - Why yes, socialism '''is''' when the government does stuff, why do you ask?
    *[[File:Libertarian.png]] [[Libertarianism]] - Why yes, socialism '''is''' when the government does stuff, why do you ask?
    *[[File:Nazi.png]] [[Nazism]] - You're not a socialist, you're just another 3rd positionist maniac who is explicitly anti-equality.
    *[[File:Nazi.png]] [[Nazism]] - You're not a socialist, you're just another 3rd positionist maniac who is explicitly anti-equality.
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    ===Literature===
    ===Literature===
    *On Authority by Frederick Engels (allegedly)


    ===Wikipedia===
    ===Wikipedia===
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    ===Video===
    ===Video===
    *[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq0EYo_ZQVU Socialism is when the government does stuff]

    [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq0EYo_ZQVU Socialism is when the government does stuff]


    ===Citations===
    ===Citations===
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