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|title=[[File:ricardosoc.png]] Ricardian Socialism |
|title=[[File:ricardosoc.png]] '''Ricardian Socialism''' |
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|caption="ACTUALLY LABOR IS THE SOURCE OF ALL WEALTH BECAUSE-" *wall of text* |
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Smithian Socialism<br> |
Smithian Socialism<br> |
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[[File:Riclib.png]] Riclassical Liberalism<br> |
[[File:Riclib.png]] Riclassical Liberalism<br> |
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[[File:Clibsoc.png]] Classical Liberal Socialism<br> |
[[File:Clibsoc.png]] Classical Liberal Socialism<br> |
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Far-Left Classical Liberalism<br> |
Far-Left Classical Liberalism<br> |
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[[File:LeftPhysiocracy.png]] Left-Physiocracy<br> |
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{{Alias|Kak.png|Kakistocracy|[[File:Pinkcap.png]] [[Pink Capitalism|Ricardo Milos]]}} |
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{{Info|Left Unity|LeftUnity}}<br> |
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[[File:L-lib.png|link=Left-Liberalism (Disambiguation)]] [[Left-Liberalism (Disambiguation)|{{Color|#F9BABA|'''Left-'''}}{{Color|#C9E5BD|'''Wing'''}} {{Color|#006AA7|'''Liberals'''}}]]<br> |
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[[File:Physiocracypix.png]] [[Physiocracy]]<br> |
[[File:Physiocracypix.png]] [[Physiocracy]]<br> |
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[[File:Neoricardosoc.png]] '''Neo-Ricardianism''' {{Collapse| |
[[File:Neoricardosoc.png]] '''Neo-Ricardianism''' {{Collapse| |
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*[[File:AntiNeoclassical.png]] Anti-Neoclassical Economics |
*[[File:AntiNeoclassical.png]] Anti-Neoclassical Economics |
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*[[File:Lange.png]] [[Market Socialism|Lange-Lerner Theorem]] |
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*[[File:Neomarx.png]] [[Neo-Marxism]] |
*[[File:Neomarx.png]] [[Neo-Marxism]] |
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*[[File:Postkeynes.png]] [[Keynesian School|Post- |
*[[File:Postkeynes.png]] [[Keynesian School|Post-Keynesianism]] |
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*[[File:Luxem.png]] [[Classical Social Democracy|Spartacism]] (Piero Sraffa) |
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*[[File:CommunismePrimitif.png]] [[Marxism|Proto-Marxism]] |
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*[[File:Utilitarian socialism.png]] {{PHB|Utilitarianism}} |
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[[File:Bernst.png]] '''Arturo Labriola Thought''' {{Collapse| |
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[[File:Bernst.png]] '''Arturo Labriola Thought'''{{Refn|Not to be confused with the Neo-Marxist [[File:Labriola.png]] Antonio Labriola|group = Note}} {{Collapse| |
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*[[File:Antifash2.png]] [[Anti-Fascism]] |
*[[File:Antifash2.png]] [[Anti-Fascism]] |
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*[[File:Nicola_Bombacci.png]] [[National Bolshevism|Bombaccism]] |
*[[File:Nicola_Bombacci.png]] [[National Bolshevism|Bombaccism]] |
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*[[File:Leftcorp.png]] [[Corporatocracy]] |
*[[File:Leftcorp.png]] [[Corporatocracy]] |
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*[[File:Esosoc.png]] [[Esoteric Socialism]] |
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*[[File:Sorelia.png]] [[National Syndicalism]] (Formerly) |
*[[File:Sorelia.png]] [[National Syndicalism]] (Formerly) |
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*[[File:Radlib.png]] [[Radicalism]] |
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*[[File:Synd.png]] [[Syndicalism]] (Formerly) |
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[[File:Chomsky.png]] [[Libertarian Socialism|Chomskyism]]<br> |
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[[File:Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism]]<br> |
[[File:Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism]]<br> |
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[[File:Mutalist.png]] [[Mutualism]]<br> |
[[File:Mutalist.png]] [[Mutualism]]<br> |
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[[File:Georgist.png]] [[Georgism]]<br> |
[[File:Georgist.png]] [[Georgism]]<br> |
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[[File:Lassalle.png]] [[Classical Social Democracy|Lassalleism]]<br> |
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[[File:Liberalsoc.png]] [[Liberal Socialism]] (Some)<br> |
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[[File:Marketsoc.png]] [[Market Socialism]]<br> |
[[File:Marketsoc.png]] [[Market Socialism]]<br> |
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[[File:SocCred.png]] [[Social Credit]]<br> |
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[[File:PanAmer.png]] '''Americas''' {{Collapse| |
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*[[File:Chomsky.png]] [[Libertarian Socialism|Noam Chomsky]] (1928-) [[File:Cball-US.png]] {{PBW|USAball|USA}} |
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[[File:Cball-Commonwealth.png]] '''Commonwealth Realm''' {{Collapse| |
[[File:Cball-Commonwealth.png]] '''Commonwealth Realm''' {{Collapse| |
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*[[File:Marketsoc.png]] [[Market Socialism|Charles Hall]] (1740-1825) [[File:Cball-GB.png]] Great Britain |
*[[File:Marketsoc.png]] [[Market Socialism|Charles Hall]] (1740-1825) [[File:Cball-GB.png]] {{PBW|UKball|Great Britain}} |
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*[[File:WilliamThompson.png]] [[Marxist Feminism|William Thompson]] (1775-1833) [[File:Cball-GB.png]] Great Britain |
*[[File:WilliamThompson.png]] [[Marxist Feminism|William Thompson]] (1775-1833) [[File:Cball-GB.png]] {{PBW|UKball|Great Britain}} |
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*[[File:Anmark2.png]] [[Left-Wing Market Anarchism|Thomas Hodgskin]] (1787-1869) [[File:Cball-GB.png]] Great Britain |
*[[File:Anmark2.png]] [[Left-Wing Market Anarchism|Thomas Hodgskin]] (1787-1869) [[File:Cball-GB.png]] {{PBW|UKball|Great Britain}} |
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[[File:Cball-EU.png]] '''Europe''' {{Collapse| |
[[File:Cball-EU.png]] '''Europe''' {{Collapse| |
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*[[File:Lassalle.png]] [[Classical Social Democracy|Ferdinand Lassalle]] (1825-1864) [[File:Cball-Germany.png]] {{PBW|Germanyball|Germany}} |
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*[[File:Bernst.png]] [[Reformist Marxism|Arturo Labriola]] (1873-1959) [[File:Cball-Italy.png]] {{PBW|Italyball|Italy}} |
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*[[File:Neoricardosoc.png]] [[Classical Social Democracy|Piero Sraffa]] (1898-1983) [[File:Cball-Italy.png]] {{PBW|Italyball|Italy}} |
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[[File:Ricardocube.png]] David Ricardo<br> |
[[File:Ricardocube.png]] David Ricardo<br> |
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Labor theory of value |
Labor theory of value<br> |
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Subjective theory of value |
Subjective theory of value<br> |
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quote="The farmer and manufacturer can no more live without profit than the labourer without wages." |
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|speaker=[[File:Ricardocube.png]] [[Classical Liberalism|David Ricardo]] |
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==History== |
==History== |
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===[[File:Ricardocube.png]] Ricardianism=== |
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===David Ricardo=== |
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===Charles Hall=== |
===Charles Hall Thought=== |
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===[[File:WilliamThompson.png]] Thompsonism=== |
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===William Thompson=== |
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'''William Thompson''' was an Irish philosopher and writer known as the "first Irish socialist", whose ideals influenced Karl Marx and numerous trade union movements. He was also a landowner, on which he tried to provide a good quality of life for his tenants, providing education for children, agricultural innovations, among others. After his death, his lands were donated to unions. |
'''William Thompson''' was an Irish philosopher and writer known as the "first Irish socialist", whose ideals influenced Karl Marx and numerous trade union movements. He was also a landowner, on which he tried to provide a good quality of life for his tenants, providing education for children, agricultural innovations, among others. After his death, his lands were donated to unions. |
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==How to Draw== |
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{{Flag|Ricardosoc_flag.svg}} |
{{Flag|Ricardosoc_flag.svg}} |
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The flag of Ricardian socialism is basically the same as the flag of [[File:Clib.png]] [[Classical Liberalism|classical liberalism]], except for a red band in the center of the flag, symbolizing socialist economics. |
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# Draw a tricolour of Dark Blue, Red and White. |
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# (Optional) Give a fedora. |
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==Relationships== |
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*[[File:Mutalist.png]] [[Mutualism]] - Proudhon, we have some disagreements, your usufruct-based infrastructure is a little shortsighted, but you know I love you! |
*[[File:Mutalist.png]] [[Mutualism]] - Proudhon, we have some disagreements, your usufruct-based infrastructure is a little shortsighted, but you know I love you! |
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*[[File:Georgist.png]] [[Georgism]] - See, this is my kind of capitalism. Even if you're still a little top-heavy with the wealth, you do eliminate many of the perversions of the free market. |
*[[File:Georgist.png]] [[Georgism]] - See, this is my kind of capitalism. Even if you're still a little top-heavy with the wealth, you do eliminate many of the perversions of the free market. |
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*[[File:Socgeo.png]] [[Social Georgism]] - A better version of the above, the more “social” the better. |
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*[[File:Neomarx.png]] [[Neo-Marxism]] - Good to know there are still Marxists taking influence from Ricardo’s works. |
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*[[File:Chomsky.png]] [[Libertarian Socialism|Chomskyism]] - Another modern incarnation. |
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*[[File:Liberalsoc.png]] [[Liberal Socialism]] - I am a liberal and a socialist. <s>Why am I considered weird tho?</s> |
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*[[File:Reform.png]] [[Reformism]] - Reforms are goood. |
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*[[File:SocCred.png]] [[Social Credit]] - Fellow economical waste disliker. |
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===Frenemies=== |
===Frenemies=== |
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*[[File:clib.png]] [[Classical Liberalism]] - The intellectual environment I grew out of, but don't you recognize the exploitative and inefficient nature of capitalism? |
*[[File:clib.png]] [[Classical Liberalism]] - The intellectual environment I grew out of, but don't you recognize the exploitative and inefficient nature of capitalism? |
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*[[File:Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism]] - Son, I still don't quite see why you lost the market, there are positive aspects to a competitive economy. That said, you have plenty of good ideas |
*[[File:Ormarxf.png]] [[Marxism]] - Son, I still don't quite see why you lost the market, there are positive aspects to a competitive economy. That said, you have plenty of good ideas, and more than a few came from me. |
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*[[File:ClassSocDem.png]] [[Classical Social Democracy]] - Too Marxist and anti-liberal, but Lassalle is kinda based. |
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*[[File:Corp.png]] [[Corporatocracy]] - You're basically the guy below, but Arturo Labriola is based. |
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===Enemies=== |
===Enemies=== |
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==Further information== |
==Further information== |
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===Literature=== |
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*[https://www.amazon.com/Effects-Civilization-People-European-States-ebook/dp/B07DD9XK55/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=The+Effects+of+Civilization+On+the+People+in+European+States&qid=1623349070&sr=8-1 The Effects of Civilization On the People in European States] by [[File:Marketsoc.png]] [[Market Socialism|Charles Hall]] (1805) |
*[https://www.amazon.com/Effects-Civilization-People-European-States-ebook/dp/B07DD9XK55/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=The+Effects+of+Civilization+On+the+People+in+European+States&qid=1623349070&sr=8-1 The Effects of Civilization On the People in European States] by [[File:Marketsoc.png]] [[Market Socialism|Charles Hall]] (1805) |
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*[https://www.gutenberg.org/files/33310/33310-h/33310-h.htm On The Principles of Political Economy and Taxation] by [[File:Ricardocube.png]] [[Classical Liberalism|David Ricardo]] (1817) |
*[https://www.gutenberg.org/files/33310/33310-h/33310-h.htm On The Principles of Political Economy and Taxation] by [[File:Ricardocube.png]] [[Classical Liberalism|David Ricardo]] (1817) |
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*[https://oll-resources.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/oll3/store/titles/323/0419_Bk.pdf The Natural and Artificial Right of Property Contrasted] by [[File:Anmark2.png]] [[Left-Wing Market Anarchism|Thomas Hodgskin]] (1832) |
*[https://oll-resources.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/oll3/store/titles/323/0419_Bk.pdf The Natural and Artificial Right of Property Contrasted] by [[File:Anmark2.png]] [[Left-Wing Market Anarchism|Thomas Hodgskin]] (1832) |
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*[https://archive.org/details/labourswrongsan01braygoog Labour's Wrongs and Labour's Remedy] by John Francis Bray (1839) |
*[https://archive.org/details/labourswrongsan01braygoog Labour's Wrongs and Labour's Remedy] by John Francis Bray (1839) |
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Latest revision as of 09:46, 4 August 2024
"The farmer and manufacturer can no more live without profit than the labourer without wages."
Ricardian Socialism is an ideology that argues the Ricardian notion that labor is the source of all value, and as such labor deserves all that it produces. Rent, profit, and interest in the view of this ideology are corruptive forces of the free market, not natural outgrowths of this system. The Ricardian Socialists argue that the best way for a market society to function is one where associations of workers control the means of production, which is believed to eliminate the inherent inefficiency of a financial drain at the head of a company.
History
Ricardianism
Charles Hall Thought
Thompsonism
William Thompson was an Irish philosopher and writer known as the "first Irish socialist", whose ideals influenced Karl Marx and numerous trade union movements. He was also a landowner, on which he tried to provide a good quality of life for his tenants, providing education for children, agricultural innovations, among others. After his death, his lands were donated to unions.
He supported the French Revolution and became interested in the Enlightenment, earning him the nickname "Red Republican". He was also influenced by the utilitarianism of James Mill and, in a negative way, by Malthus and Godwin, as well as becoming familiar with Utopian Socialists. He believes in Adam Smith's theory of value, but he strongly believes in Surplus Value, a term which he created and became popular with Marx, in which he states that in capitalism, the product is worth more than the work given to it, that is, a more value.[1] He claims that capitalism generates exploitation and opposes the idea of Mill and Malthus that the increase in wages would increase misery, believing it to be of a capitalist selfish nature, believing in any kind of wealth distribution schemes. He was also in favor of women's voting rights, along with Mill. Other ideals would be the concern with the increase of the population would generate in the increase of the poverty, vegetarianism, opposition to unequal wages, unlimited distribution and equal distribution.
Thomas Hodgskin
How to Draw
The flag of Ricardian socialism is basically the same as the flag of classical liberalism, except for a red band in the center of the flag, symbolizing socialist economics.
- Draw a ball with Eyes.
- Draw a tricolour of Dark Blue, Red and White.
- (Optional) Give a fedora.
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White | #FFFFFF | 255, 255, 255 | |
Red | #C9352B | 201, 53, 43 | |
Dark Blue | #39386E | 57, 56, 110 |
Relationships
Friends
- Ricardian Liberalism - My dad, who taught me much of what I know. Labor theory of value gang!
- Mutualism - Proudhon, we have some disagreements, your usufruct-based infrastructure is a little shortsighted, but you know I love you!
- Georgism - See, this is my kind of capitalism. Even if you're still a little top-heavy with the wealth, you do eliminate many of the perversions of the free market.
- Social Georgism - A better version of the above, the more “social” the better.
- Neo-Marxism - Good to know there are still Marxists taking influence from Ricardo’s works.
- Chomskyism - Another modern incarnation.
- Liberal Socialism - I am a liberal and a socialist.
Why am I considered weird tho? - Reformism - Reforms are goood.
- Social Credit - Fellow economical waste disliker.
Frenemies
- Classical Liberalism - The intellectual environment I grew out of, but don't you recognize the exploitative and inefficient nature of capitalism?
- Marxism - Son, I still don't quite see why you lost the market, there are positive aspects to a competitive economy. That said, you have plenty of good ideas, and more than a few came from me.
- Classical Social Democracy - Too Marxist and anti-liberal, but Lassalle is kinda based.
- Corporatocracy - You're basically the guy below, but Arturo Labriola is based.
Enemies
- Plutocracy - You're an economic drain, siphoning wealth away from the workers and contributing nothing valuable to the systems you control.
- Mercantilism - Oh good lord, if it wasn't enough to exploit workers at home, you've decided to throw a little imperialism in to exploit the rest of the world, and eliminate the one good part of capitalism, free trade. I really hope capitalists in the future don't end up learning from you and exploiting foreign labor and consumption, impoverishing and enslaving the future equivalent of a colonial citizen .
Further information
Literature
- The Effects of Civilization On the People in European States by Charles Hall (1805)
- On The Principles of Political Economy and Taxation by David Ricardo (1817)
- Elements of Political Economy by James Mill (1824)
- An Inquiry into the Principles of the Distribution of Wealth by William Thompson (1824)
- The Definitive Labour Defended against the Claims of Capital by Thomas Hodgskin (1825)
- Popular Political Economy by Thomas Hodgskin (1827)
- The Natural and Artificial Right of Property Contrasted by Thomas Hodgskin (1832)
- Labour's Wrongs and Labour's Remedy by John Francis Bray (1839)
Wikipedia
Gallery
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Notes
- ↑ To make it easier, a hypothetical example: In a sock factory, each worker earns 10 coins for every sock made, while socks are sold for 20 coins. It would then generate the exploitation of the salaried worker.More detailed Wikipedia page on the subject, in addition to recommending Marx's books